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Culture is bullshit. Professionals working together in a project vs a factory or plantation.

by marianov 8y ago

walshemj 8y ago
What's your point here ?
- mamon 8y ago
  Not GP but I think that the point is that the whole "corporate culture" is mostly bullshit - you wouldn't expect factory or farm workers to form a "culture" and "take pride in their work" or "share company values", so why are you expecting all of this from knowledge workers? For me the whole "corporate culture" thing is just an attempt to brainwash people into accepting lower salary, because "we are changing the world here".
  - chrisan 8y ago
    Ya I don’t think I’ve ever been in a “corporate culture” that wasn’t a facade.
    - OpenDrapery 8y ago
      I think when I was younger, I wanted to believe in it. But, yes, now that I'm older and I reflect, I don't think I've ever been part of one that wasn't fake. There are the owners/middle management/laborers. To trick the laborers into thinking that they are part of something is pretty brilliant though.
    - imnotadoctor999 8y ago
      In your view, is there a difference between micromanaging authorian culture compared to a consensus-driven culture where the employees all trust each other? I've seen several different companies from the insidr, and each one has had vastly different cultures. Usually it is an implementation of the CEO/upper management's views of what "corporate culture" is. There's still usually a facade, but that facade is not necessarily disingenuous.
    - checkyoursudo 8y ago
      The couple of times when I worked for companies that openly talked about employees and corporate culture, it was basically stated as "come build the culture we all want" but put into practice as "come build the culture that we all in management want and do not deviate."
    - Clubber 8y ago
      Oh it absolutely is. Want to see evidence? If a client or someone important comes to visit the office, management asks everyone to wear nicer clothes and "clean up your workspaces." If culture was so great and beneficial, they sure make a point to hide it when it's important. Total facade.
  - walshemj 8y ago
    I think they meant the (lets call it "emergent culture") that teams develop over time not really the corporate "urah" one.

Culture is bullshit. Professionals working together in a project vs a factory or plantation.

walshemj 8y ago

What's your point here ?

mamon 8y ago
Not GP but I think that the point is that the whole "corporate culture" is mostly bullshit - you wouldn't expect factory or farm workers to form a "culture" and "take pride in their work" or "share company values", so why are you expecting all of this from knowledge workers? For me the whole "corporate culture" thing is just an attempt to brainwash people into accepting lower salary, because "we are changing the world here".
- chrisan 8y ago
  Ya I don’t think I’ve ever been in a “corporate culture” that wasn’t a facade.
  - OpenDrapery 8y ago
    I think when I was younger, I wanted to believe in it. But, yes, now that I'm older and I reflect, I don't think I've ever been part of one that wasn't fake. There are the owners/middle management/laborers. To trick the laborers into thinking that they are part of something is pretty brilliant though.
  - imnotadoctor999 8y ago
    In your view, is there a difference between micromanaging authorian culture compared to a consensus-driven culture where the employees all trust each other? I've seen several different companies from the insidr, and each one has had vastly different cultures. Usually it is an implementation of the CEO/upper management's views of what "corporate culture" is. There's still usually a facade, but that facade is not necessarily disingenuous.
  - checkyoursudo 8y ago
    The couple of times when I worked for companies that openly talked about employees and corporate culture, it was basically stated as "come build the culture we all want" but put into practice as "come build the culture that we all in management want and do not deviate."
  - Clubber 8y ago
    Oh it absolutely is. Want to see evidence? If a client or someone important comes to visit the office, management asks everyone to wear nicer clothes and "clean up your workspaces." If culture was so great and beneficial, they sure make a point to hide it when it's important. Total facade.
- walshemj 8y ago
  I think they meant the (lets call it "emergent culture") that teams develop over time not really the corporate "urah" one.