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This doesn't address your question but might be interesting. As someone who has used Android forever and never tried Siri, those anecdotes are mind blowing to m

This doesn't address your question but might be interesting. As someone who has used Android forever and never tried Siri, those anecdotes are mind blowing to me. For me with Google Assistant, media commands work about 80% and successful call initiation is about 90%. And I haven't looked for documentation either. YMMV of course.

rayiner 9y ago
So a simple media command fails 1 in 5 times? This is the best SV can do with a incredibly well-studied technology (voice recognition)?
- hunter2_ 9y ago
  Well, I try new things all the time. For example, sometimes it finds an artist or song whose name contains the genre I was trying to play. I could approach 100% with "hey google, play" when something is paused (but not "hey google, stop" when it's playing, because of the ambient noise of whatever is playing making the wake word fail).
matwood 9y ago
As someone who has used both, the problem with Siri is when it works it's great, but it will fail on the exact same command the next time you try it. Consistency is key in these things working.
wlesieutre 9y ago
A recent survey of iPhone X users backs up the notion that people aren't happy with it https://techpinions.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/04/Screen-Shot-2018-04-26-at-9.28.45-AM.png https://techpinions.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/04/Screen-Sh...
rootusrootus 9y ago
Sometimes it works great. Sometimes I can't get Siri to do anything right. Anecdotally I've found that Google's voice assistant is quite a lot better. Unfortunately I am unwilling to accept the rest of Google's terms and conditions so I am stuck with Siri for the foreseeable future.
- hunter2_ 9y ago
  I disagree with the terms of plenty of things that I use anyway, and I ain't dead yet. I do realize that it could jeopardize me in the future, but the convenience outweighs most of my cares. It's horrible, really. I imagine it's how smokers with no intention of quitting feel.
  - rootusrootus 9y ago
    Ha! Every time I pick up a big juicy cheeseburger...
- dirkgently 9y ago
  And what are those specific "terms and conditions"? It's funny hoe Google is somehow perceived as evil while Apple or Amazon not. If I have to trust someone with mt data (and we all do), I will choose Google over anyone else.
  - denverkarma 9y ago
    I disagree that Amazon is not considered evil. But really I don’t think anyone deeply believes that these companies are good or evil in the personal human sense, rather it’s a question of incentives and interests. Google makes money by selling me to advertisers. I understand the business value but I’m personally not comfortable with it. Amazon makes money by selling me other people’s stuff. I’m comfortable with the business, but sometimes I’m concerned that what’s good for Amazon isn’t what’s good for the people who make the stuff I like. Apple makes money by selling me stuff that they make. This is the business model that I like best, because when they make stuff I don’t like I don’t buy it, and when they make stuff I love I’m happy to give them my money in exchange. Buying from the maker is the best win-win virtuous cycle, in my opinion.
  - rootusrootus 8y ago
    I do not perceive corporations as evil or not; I look at how their interests intersect with mine and select the most comfortable fit. Google makes money by knowing everything they can figure out about me, and they're not especially forthcoming about what they know (or worse, what they think they know). Weirdly, I actually sort of trust them at some level, so if they offered me an option to pay up for a guarantee they won't track me or sell my information to the highest bidder, I would be more interested in their services. Apple is unapologetically interested in getting the largest capital investment from me while being sufficiently committed to keeping my stuff private that the FBI periodically tries to use law to force them to provide a backdoor. At this time I feel that my data is safer with them than any other viable provider. Also, please note the gov't does not seem too concerned about Android devices. That tells me what I need to know, even if the constant security holes and utter lack of updates for devices more than a year old weren't obvious enough (I've had a bunch of Android phones, I'm not an Apple fanboy) You are absolutely welcome to trust whichever corporation makes you most comfortable, no quibbles from me :). It's still a mostly free country.
hammock 9y ago
https://assistant.google.com/explore https://assistant.google.com/explore

rayiner 9y ago

So a simple media command fails 1 in 5 times? This is the best SV can do with a incredibly well-studied technology (voice recognition)?

hunter2_ 9y ago
Well, I try new things all the time. For example, sometimes it finds an artist or song whose name contains the genre I was trying to play. I could approach 100% with "hey google, play" when something is paused (but not "hey google, stop" when it's playing, because of the ambient noise of whatever is playing making the wake word fail).

matwood 9y ago

As someone who has used both, the problem with Siri is when it works it's great, but it will fail on the exact same command the next time you try it. Consistency is key in these things working.

wlesieutre 9y ago

A recent survey of iPhone X users backs up the notion that people aren't happy with it https://techpinions.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/04/Screen-Shot-2018-04-26-at-9.28.45-AM.png https://techpinions.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/04/Screen-Sh...

rootusrootus 9y ago

Sometimes it works great. Sometimes I can't get Siri to do anything right. Anecdotally I've found that Google's voice assistant is quite a lot better. Unfortunately I am unwilling to accept the rest of Google's terms and conditions so I am stuck with Siri for the foreseeable future.

hunter2_ 9y ago
I disagree with the terms of plenty of things that I use anyway, and I ain't dead yet. I do realize that it could jeopardize me in the future, but the convenience outweighs most of my cares. It's horrible, really. I imagine it's how smokers with no intention of quitting feel.
- rootusrootus 9y ago
  Ha! Every time I pick up a big juicy cheeseburger...
dirkgently 9y ago
And what are those specific "terms and conditions"? It's funny hoe Google is somehow perceived as evil while Apple or Amazon not. If I have to trust someone with mt data (and we all do), I will choose Google over anyone else.
- denverkarma 9y ago
  I disagree that Amazon is not considered evil. But really I don’t think anyone deeply believes that these companies are good or evil in the personal human sense, rather it’s a question of incentives and interests. Google makes money by selling me to advertisers. I understand the business value but I’m personally not comfortable with it. Amazon makes money by selling me other people’s stuff. I’m comfortable with the business, but sometimes I’m concerned that what’s good for Amazon isn’t what’s good for the people who make the stuff I like. Apple makes money by selling me stuff that they make. This is the business model that I like best, because when they make stuff I don’t like I don’t buy it, and when they make stuff I love I’m happy to give them my money in exchange. Buying from the maker is the best win-win virtuous cycle, in my opinion.
- rootusrootus 8y ago
  I do not perceive corporations as evil or not; I look at how their interests intersect with mine and select the most comfortable fit. Google makes money by knowing everything they can figure out about me, and they're not especially forthcoming about what they know (or worse, what they think they know). Weirdly, I actually sort of trust them at some level, so if they offered me an option to pay up for a guarantee they won't track me or sell my information to the highest bidder, I would be more interested in their services. Apple is unapologetically interested in getting the largest capital investment from me while being sufficiently committed to keeping my stuff private that the FBI periodically tries to use law to force them to provide a backdoor. At this time I feel that my data is safer with them than any other viable provider. Also, please note the gov't does not seem too concerned about Android devices. That tells me what I need to know, even if the constant security holes and utter lack of updates for devices more than a year old weren't obvious enough (I've had a bunch of Android phones, I'm not an Apple fanboy) You are absolutely welcome to trust whichever corporation makes you most comfortable, no quibbles from me :). It's still a mostly free country.

hammock 9y ago

https://assistant.google.com/explore https://assistant.google.com/explore