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Sorry to be completely ignorant here, but what is it with these sites that have absolutely zero styling? 15 years ago I would've put it down to lack of underst
by kthartic 8y ago
Sorry to be completely ignorant here, but what is it with these sites that have absolutely zero styling?
15 years ago I would've put it down to lack of understanding how to write CSS etc. But today it's almost impossible to make a website that doesn't have at least _some_ styling (when using site builders like Squarespace, Wix, etc).
Edit: Turns out this site is from 1994 (see http://www.pbm.com/ http://www.pbm.com/). How are you guys finding these ancient sites? :P
- wirrbel 8y agoRather I wonder why Browsers display such non-CSS sites in this primitive way. Pretty sure browser vendors could slap on a primitve CSS limiting the text width and tweaking a few defaults when a site does not load any CSS or JS.
- pbhjpbhj 8y agocf. Reader mode.
- egeozcan 8y agoI'm not your typical JS/CSS hater but for this document, I found the lack of styling perfectly fine. It also works without problems on any mobile device I tested (as expected). IMHO, not every page needs CSS and lots of breakpoints.
- kthartic 8y agoThe text covers the full width of my 27" monitor which, while readable, is not nearly as comfortable to read as text that doesn't.
- alejohausner 8y agoMake your browser window narrower.
- kthartic 8y agoThat's not a valid design decision. Car seats too small? Lose weight. Look, I realise now it's a site from 1994, I'm just astounded by the number of people that seem to think this design is still acceptable by today's standards and that I'm some sort of new-age hipster for suggesting otherwise.
- mixmastamyk 8y agoWhy is your browser maximized on a widescreen monitor?
- kthartic 8y agoWhy wouldn't it be? Yes, I certainly can reduce the width of my browser, but that's not the point. Bad design should not put the burden on the user to fix it.
- mixmastamyk 8y agoIt’s something a noob would do. The page was from ‘95, widescreen didn’t really exist, and free-flow was the best practice.
- downer68 8y agoHonestly, 1994 or not, styling a passage of text with CSS just isn’t as useful anyone would like to imagine it being.
- kthartic 8y agoI don't mean styling for the sake of looking stylish, I mean styling for readability. Line spacing, page width (reading text that takes up full width of a 27" is not nice), section grouping/separation, title size, use of colour (e.g. for titles to increase visibility of section grouping, for background/font to decrease stark contrast), sans-serif font (greater readability on a screen vs on paper), etc are all valid design considerations.
- bovermyer 8y agoThis is one example of many instructional resources that people in the SCA have put online over the decades. Spending time perusing knowledge sites other than the latest JS framework tutorial does tend to produce sharing of this kind.
- kthartic 8y agoI don't mean styling for the sake of looking stylish, I mean styling for readability. Line spacing, page width (reading text that takes up full width of a 27" is not nice), section grouping/separation, title size, use of colour (e.g. for titles to increase visibility of section grouping, for background/font to decrease stark contrast), sans-serif font (greater readability on a screen vs on paper), etc are all valid design considerations.
- greglindahl 8y agoI formatted that site. I'm sorry I didn't find this discussion soon enough to downvote your comment.