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Apple is known to shamelessly copy features that work and are consumer friendly- I have no doubt that they'll be keeping a close eye on how consumers respond to

Apple is known to shamelessly copy features that work and are consumer friendly- I have no doubt that they'll be keeping a close eye on how consumers respond to these updates.

ocdtrekkie 8y ago
This is ironic given that Android P lifted iPhone X navigation and is adding support for notches, also lifted from the iPhone X.
- fnordsensei 8y ago
  As a longtime iPhone user, I'm very happy that the competitors copy shamelessly from each other. The more they take the good parts from competition and refine it, the quicker maturity can be improved the board. We're in the era where basic phone capabilities have stabilized. Aspects of competing offerings converging, because it has become more well-defined what the basics of phone is, and the basics of how it's supposed to behave. Less "innovation" (trial and error), more copying of basics, and marginal improvements is disappointing to techies, but it's good for almost everyone else.
  - ocdtrekkie 8y ago
    I don't actually disagree, I just found the statement above somewhat hilarious, given the major changes in Android P.
    - fnordsensei 8y ago
      Of course they will pull ahead of each other somewhat now and then. In the grand scheme of things, they're statistically at the same level of development, and becoming more so over time (when it comes to the software).
- canuckintime 8y ago
  Both iPhone X and Android P lifted their gesture navigation from webOS
  - sizzle 8y ago
    My parents still use their touchpad.
- cup-of-tea 8y ago
  That's not ironic, it's just something else that is true.
- nevir 8y ago
  and iPhone X navigation is eerily similar to WebOS' cards paradigm. Everyone copies everyone.
- muro 8y ago
  Essential phone had a notch before the iPhone X :)
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- shard 8y ago
  I don't know if notches are the best example. If Google has been keeping track of display technology, and I have no reason to doubt that they haven't, they had probably saw this coming miles away and had been preparing. Sure, it's not all open and public information, but Google has enough clout and HW ongoings to warrant meetings with display manufacturers regularly. Thus it's not a case of copying, but rather how product lifecycles and price points line up with the development cycle of the technology.
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y4mi 8y ago
uuh, i'd applaud them for copying working features? why should they be ashamed to add a useful feature that somebody else pioneered? you as a consumer only stand to benefit after all. though i'm not a user of apple devices, i see absolutely not fault in that.
- takeda 8y ago
  He forgot to add that after copying, they also claim it is theirs.
rsynnott 8y ago
In this case, though, these seem to be, well, heavily inspired by iOS's Bed Time, Night Shift, and DND features. Mostly showed up in iOS9/10 a couple of years ago. The shameless copying goes both ways ;)

Apple is known to shamelessly copy features that work and are consumer friendly- I have no doubt that they'll be keeping a close eye on how consumers respond to these updates.

ocdtrekkie 8y ago

This is ironic given that Android P lifted iPhone X navigation and is adding support for notches, also lifted from the iPhone X.

fnordsensei 8y ago
As a longtime iPhone user, I'm very happy that the competitors copy shamelessly from each other. The more they take the good parts from competition and refine it, the quicker maturity can be improved the board. We're in the era where basic phone capabilities have stabilized. Aspects of competing offerings converging, because it has become more well-defined what the basics of phone is, and the basics of how it's supposed to behave. Less "innovation" (trial and error), more copying of basics, and marginal improvements is disappointing to techies, but it's good for almost everyone else.
- ocdtrekkie 8y ago
  I don't actually disagree, I just found the statement above somewhat hilarious, given the major changes in Android P.
  - fnordsensei 8y ago
    Of course they will pull ahead of each other somewhat now and then. In the grand scheme of things, they're statistically at the same level of development, and becoming more so over time (when it comes to the software).
canuckintime 8y ago
Both iPhone X and Android P lifted their gesture navigation from webOS
- sizzle 8y ago
  My parents still use their touchpad.
cup-of-tea 8y ago
That's not ironic, it's just something else that is true.
nevir 8y ago
and iPhone X navigation is eerily similar to WebOS' cards paradigm. Everyone copies everyone.
muro 8y ago
Essential phone had a notch before the iPhone X :)
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shard 8y ago
I don't know if notches are the best example. If Google has been keeping track of display technology, and I have no reason to doubt that they haven't, they had probably saw this coming miles away and had been preparing. Sure, it's not all open and public information, but Google has enough clout and HW ongoings to warrant meetings with display manufacturers regularly. Thus it's not a case of copying, but rather how product lifecycles and price points line up with the development cycle of the technology.
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y4mi 8y ago

uuh, i'd applaud them for copying working features? why should they be ashamed to add a useful feature that somebody else pioneered? you as a consumer only stand to benefit after all. though i'm not a user of apple devices, i see absolutely not fault in that.

takeda 8y ago
He forgot to add that after copying, they also claim it is theirs.

rsynnott 8y ago

In this case, though, these seem to be, well, heavily inspired by iOS's Bed Time, Night Shift, and DND features. Mostly showed up in iOS9/10 a couple of years ago. The shameless copying goes both ways ;)