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Coming from iOS, with all the disclosures about how Android leaks to Facebook much more I expected to see permissions locked down a lot more. There's a differe

Coming from iOS, with all the disclosures about how Android leaks to Facebook much more I expected to see permissions locked down a lot more. There's a difference between "I want to put a location in my status update" to "I want to upload my location 24/7 to Facebook's servers so they can profile the crap out of me". iOS makes this difference. Android doesn't.

talldan 9y ago
You can already disable SMS, phone and location permissions (and others) for each app in the previous version of Android (Oreo). I'm sure this has it too.
- BugsJustFindMe 9y ago
  > You can already disable SMS, phone and location permissions (and others) for each app This doesn't address the comment you replied to in any way. Surely you see that there's a gap in reasoning between "I want to be able to add my location, just not have my location always broadcast to them" and "you can disable location entirely". Your suggestion specifically violates the "I want to be able to add my location" part of personal control over information. Or are you suggesting that it's reasonable that a user should have to manually switch apps between white/black lists for behaviors? Personally I would find that idea contemptible.
  - refulgentis 9y ago
    Bwah? The permissions model is the same on Android and iOS, if you opt into permissions, you have to "manually switch between white/black lists to opt them out"
    - toxik 9y ago
      Nope, there's three options on iOS location sharing: never, always, and while using app.
    - jclardy 9y ago
      The difference is on iOS you can specify to share your location only when the app is running in the foreground. They could both still be improved - it would be nice if you could do one-time permissions, like access the camera, but only this one time (So the permission would be removed when you lock the device or leave the app.)
Andrex 9y ago
Android P is locking various things down, such as network monitoring and mic/camera recording for background apps. https://developer.android.com/preview/behavior-changes#input-data-privacy https://developer.android.com/preview/behavior-changes#input... "Android P strengthens privacy by limiting the ability of background apps to access user input and sensor data. If your app is running in the background on a device running Android P, the system applies the following restrictions to your app: - Your app cannot access the microphone or camera. - Sensors that use the continuous reporting mode, such as accelerometers and gyroscopes, don't receive events. - Sensors that use the on-change or one-shot reporting modes don't receive events. If your app needs to detect sensor events on devices running Android P, use a foreground service."

talldan 9y ago

You can already disable SMS, phone and location permissions (and others) for each app in the previous version of Android (Oreo). I'm sure this has it too.

BugsJustFindMe 9y ago
> You can already disable SMS, phone and location permissions (and others) for each app This doesn't address the comment you replied to in any way. Surely you see that there's a gap in reasoning between "I want to be able to add my location, just not have my location always broadcast to them" and "you can disable location entirely". Your suggestion specifically violates the "I want to be able to add my location" part of personal control over information. Or are you suggesting that it's reasonable that a user should have to manually switch apps between white/black lists for behaviors? Personally I would find that idea contemptible.
- refulgentis 9y ago
  Bwah? The permissions model is the same on Android and iOS, if you opt into permissions, you have to "manually switch between white/black lists to opt them out"
  - toxik 9y ago
    Nope, there's three options on iOS location sharing: never, always, and while using app.
  - jclardy 9y ago
    The difference is on iOS you can specify to share your location only when the app is running in the foreground. They could both still be improved - it would be nice if you could do one-time permissions, like access the camera, but only this one time (So the permission would be removed when you lock the device or leave the app.)

Andrex 9y ago

Android P is locking various things down, such as network monitoring and mic/camera recording for background apps. https://developer.android.com/preview/behavior-changes#input-data-privacy https://developer.android.com/preview/behavior-changes#input... "Android P strengthens privacy by limiting the ability of background apps to access user input and sensor data. If your app is running in the background on a device running Android P, the system applies the following restrictions to your app: - Your app cannot access the microphone or camera. - Sensors that use the continuous reporting mode, such as accelerometers and gyroscopes, don't receive events. - Sensors that use the on-change or one-shot reporting modes don't receive events. If your app needs to detect sensor events on devices running Android P, use a foreground service."