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You mean he could make less money by running his company inefficiently and that would be good for people? Why single out Amazon workers and affiliates though? W

You mean he could make less money by running his company inefficiently and that would be good for people? Why single out Amazon workers and affiliates though? What if he gave cash to, I don't know, all optometrists, or something? Eventually, it's just giving away money to someone. Space travel is different - it's creating value on its own.

pg314 8y ago
> You mean he could make less money by running his company inefficiently and that would be good for people? It would definitely be good for the warehouse workers who are being exploited at the moment. Do you think efficiency goes above all else? > Why single out Amazon workers and affiliates though? Because Amazon warehouse workers are being exploited by Amazon? > What if he gave cash to, I don't know, all optometrists, or something? Why do you bring up this straw man? Is there any relation between optometrists and Amazon? > Eventually, it's just giving away money to someone. No it isn't. He has built his fortune on the hard work of his employees. He could at least address the problems with their working conditions.
- lopmotr 8y ago
  Exploit is the wrong word. It's America and they're free to quit. Nothing's keeping there except their own desire for money. They won't starve without that job so it's not wage slavery. They simply choose to do it. And why affiliates? The GP proposed giving money to internet advertisers. They are surely not the most deserving group of people on Earth.
  - oblio 8y ago
    > They won't starve without that job so it's not wage slavery. They simply choose to do it. Aren't those people paid close to minimum wage? People on minimum wage don't live in an utopia where they have all the freedom in the world to move around as they wish, unlike Silicon Valley employees being paid 200k per year.
oblio 8y ago
Dude, Henry Ford came up with this https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fordism https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fordism in 1910. And Ford was not famous for being very nice. I'd say Bezos has a lot of work to do on the "taking better care of his employees" front. And regarding space travel at this point it's just an intellectual fetish based on reading/watching SF (and I'm a big fan of SF...). Except for the "single point of failure" thing, which hasn't truly been an issue for the last 65 million years, we should be fine on Earth for the next decades, at least.
- AstralStorm 8y ago
  We seem to have avoided catastrophe as a species a few times cutting it real close. And those haven't been really big incidents either. Anyway, Musk's strategy in making space travel cheaper is a right one. Throwing more money at it directly is likely to result in inefficient solutions. It requires time and work add much as some money. Setting up a Bezos space university would be a good start. And figuring out education without (much) bureaucracy and sinecures. Space travel (especially long range) is interesting in that tackling it rewrites solving a whole lot of ancillary problems. Social, political, educational, biological, agricultural, physical etc.

pg314 8y ago

> You mean he could make less money by running his company inefficiently and that would be good for people? It would definitely be good for the warehouse workers who are being exploited at the moment. Do you think efficiency goes above all else? > Why single out Amazon workers and affiliates though? Because Amazon warehouse workers are being exploited by Amazon? > What if he gave cash to, I don't know, all optometrists, or something? Why do you bring up this straw man? Is there any relation between optometrists and Amazon? > Eventually, it's just giving away money to someone. No it isn't. He has built his fortune on the hard work of his employees. He could at least address the problems with their working conditions.

lopmotr 8y ago
Exploit is the wrong word. It's America and they're free to quit. Nothing's keeping there except their own desire for money. They won't starve without that job so it's not wage slavery. They simply choose to do it. And why affiliates? The GP proposed giving money to internet advertisers. They are surely not the most deserving group of people on Earth.
- oblio 8y ago
  > They won't starve without that job so it's not wage slavery. They simply choose to do it. Aren't those people paid close to minimum wage? People on minimum wage don't live in an utopia where they have all the freedom in the world to move around as they wish, unlike Silicon Valley employees being paid 200k per year.

oblio 8y ago

Dude, Henry Ford came up with this https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fordism https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fordism in 1910. And Ford was not famous for being very nice. I'd say Bezos has a lot of work to do on the "taking better care of his employees" front. And regarding space travel at this point it's just an intellectual fetish based on reading/watching SF (and I'm a big fan of SF...). Except for the "single point of failure" thing, which hasn't truly been an issue for the last 65 million years, we should be fine on Earth for the next decades, at least.

AstralStorm 8y ago
We seem to have avoided catastrophe as a species a few times cutting it real close. And those haven't been really big incidents either. Anyway, Musk's strategy in making space travel cheaper is a right one. Throwing more money at it directly is likely to result in inefficient solutions. It requires time and work add much as some money. Setting up a Bezos space university would be a good start. And figuring out education without (much) bureaucracy and sinecures. Space travel (especially long range) is interesting in that tackling it rewrites solving a whole lot of ancillary problems. Social, political, educational, biological, agricultural, physical etc.