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In the EU, the GDPR will make data takeout APIs (or some guy exporting as CSV and mailing it to you) mandatory.

by Sylos 8y ago

LeonM 8y ago
Mandatory, yes, but the GDPR does not say it should be done for free. I offer data exports for all my services, so I'm compliant with the GDPR, but you will have to pay me for my time
- icebraining 8y ago
  Careful, there, it does say that in Article 12, (5): "Information provided under Articles 13 and 14 and any communication and any actions taken under Articles 15 to 22 and 34 shall be provided free of charge". (Article 15 is the Right of access by the data subject.) You can only charge for subsequent copies or when "requests from a data subject are manifestly unfounded or excessive". -- See also the ICO FAQ on the subject: https://ico.org.uk/for-organisations/guide-to-the-general-data-protection-regulation-gdpr/individual-rights/right-of-access/ https://ico.org.uk/for-organisations/guide-to-the-general-da...
- Jack5500 8y ago
  This is not the case. (Article 12 (5)) https://gdpr-info.eu/art-12-gdpr/ https://gdpr-info.eu/art-12-gdpr/
chii 8y ago
> data takeout APIs the data will be useless other than as a source of information. If you have data for an online vector editor, the vector data can be legally taken out via a common format (such as json), but there'll be no importers for this shape of data. Any business can easily construe a common machine readable format that's also completely custom, and unimportable anywhere else, to satisfy the letter of the law.
- Sylos 8y ago
  If it's any sort of bigger service, competing services will implement their special format. If they frequently change this format to break those implementations or clearly make it much more complex than it needs to be, that can also have legal repercussions.
- BlackFly 8y ago
  That is a rather cynical take. More pragmatically, while it may be true that companies don't immediately jump at the opportunity to export in a common format (or there may be too many standards to export as), there is suddenly a market for data adapters if the companies do not import from their competitors, and a missing feature on a product sheet in any case.

In the EU, the GDPR will make data takeout APIs (or some guy exporting as CSV and mailing it to you) mandatory.

by Sylos 8y ago

In the EU, the GDPR will make data takeout APIs (or some guy exporting as CSV and mailing it to you) mandatory.

Mandatory, yes, but the GDPR does not say it should be done for free. I offer data exports for all my services, so I'm compliant with the GDPR, but you will have to pay me for my time

icebraining 8y ago
Careful, there, it does say that in Article 12, (5): "Information provided under Articles 13 and 14 and any communication and any actions taken under Articles 15 to 22 and 34 shall be provided free of charge". (Article 15 is the Right of access by the data subject.) You can only charge for subsequent copies or when "requests from a data subject are manifestly unfounded or excessive". -- See also the ICO FAQ on the subject: https://ico.org.uk/for-organisations/guide-to-the-general-data-protection-regulation-gdpr/individual-rights/right-of-access/ https://ico.org.uk/for-organisations/guide-to-the-general-da...
Jack5500 8y ago
This is not the case. (Article 12 (5)) https://gdpr-info.eu/art-12-gdpr/ https://gdpr-info.eu/art-12-gdpr/

chii 8y ago

> data takeout APIs the data will be useless other than as a source of information. If you have data for an online vector editor, the vector data can be legally taken out via a common format (such as json), but there'll be no importers for this shape of data. Any business can easily construe a common machine readable format that's also completely custom, and unimportable anywhere else, to satisfy the letter of the law.

Sylos 8y ago
If it's any sort of bigger service, competing services will implement their special format. If they frequently change this format to break those implementations or clearly make it much more complex than it needs to be, that can also have legal repercussions.
BlackFly 8y ago
That is a rather cynical take. More pragmatically, while it may be true that companies don't immediately jump at the opportunity to export in a common format (or there may be too many standards to export as), there is suddenly a market for data adapters if the companies do not import from their competitors, and a missing feature on a product sheet in any case.