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It does read like propaganda, but you're saying an arms race is a better solution than a bit of regulation? I'm not convinced.

phkahler 9y ago
>> you're saying an arms race is a better solution than a bit of regulation? What regulation? You can build your own drone with open source software. People with criminal intent are not going to build their drones according to regulations and put in a transponder that broadcasts their ID. If you don't want drones around just plug your taser into a magnetron...
- nradov 9y ago
  Most criminals lack the skills, tools, and working areas necessary to build a custom drone.
  - bilbo0s 9y ago
    If criminals can pull off USD50 Billion Ponzi Schemes on the financial markets, (Madoff), and hack into Experian to attain credit card data on the majority of Americans. I'm sure MORE than a few of them can work out how to build a drone, or forty.
  - unit91 9y ago
    I don't have a printed source off-hand, but a law enforcement friend once described to me how wealthy criminal (narcotics) gangs work. Your average "dumb street thug" is a low-level throwaway in the eyes of the gang. They work through a series of intermediaries, to avoid the low-level guys knowing too much, very much like spies. The guys at the top are much smarter, and are running in some cases multi-billion dollar operations. You have to be smart to be in charge of something at that scale, whether it's Wal-Mart or MS-13. I'm not saying the gang bosses are good, but many of them are smart. They have "technology teams" of sorts. After all, somebody thought to strap drugs to drones and experimented with payloads before sending them...
    - nradov 9y ago
      Which is why I wrote it as "most" criminals. There may be other valid reasons to object to this proposed law, but the existence of a few smart criminals at the head of organized gangs isn't one of them. Otherwise why bother having laws at all? Most criminals are honestly pretty dumb. Real life isn't like the movies.
  - jstarfish 9y ago
    The Mexican cartels were recently known to be kidnapping network engineers and field technicians to compel them into building private communications infrastructure. You don't have to know how to build it yourself, you just need to stick a gun in the ribcage of someone who does.

phkahler 9y ago

>> you're saying an arms race is a better solution than a bit of regulation? What regulation? You can build your own drone with open source software. People with criminal intent are not going to build their drones according to regulations and put in a transponder that broadcasts their ID. If you don't want drones around just plug your taser into a magnetron...

nradov 9y ago
Most criminals lack the skills, tools, and working areas necessary to build a custom drone.
- bilbo0s 9y ago
  If criminals can pull off USD50 Billion Ponzi Schemes on the financial markets, (Madoff), and hack into Experian to attain credit card data on the majority of Americans. I'm sure MORE than a few of them can work out how to build a drone, or forty.
- unit91 9y ago
  I don't have a printed source off-hand, but a law enforcement friend once described to me how wealthy criminal (narcotics) gangs work. Your average "dumb street thug" is a low-level throwaway in the eyes of the gang. They work through a series of intermediaries, to avoid the low-level guys knowing too much, very much like spies. The guys at the top are much smarter, and are running in some cases multi-billion dollar operations. You have to be smart to be in charge of something at that scale, whether it's Wal-Mart or MS-13. I'm not saying the gang bosses are good, but many of them are smart. They have "technology teams" of sorts. After all, somebody thought to strap drugs to drones and experimented with payloads before sending them...
  - nradov 9y ago
    Which is why I wrote it as "most" criminals. There may be other valid reasons to object to this proposed law, but the existence of a few smart criminals at the head of organized gangs isn't one of them. Otherwise why bother having laws at all? Most criminals are honestly pretty dumb. Real life isn't like the movies.
- jstarfish 9y ago
  The Mexican cartels were recently known to be kidnapping network engineers and field technicians to compel them into building private communications infrastructure. You don't have to know how to build it yourself, you just need to stick a gun in the ribcage of someone who does.