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I thought that in most countries, if you are on the dole, you must search for work if you are capable, or you get a severe reduction in your financial support.

by gpvos 9y ago

Cthulhu_ 9y ago
There are some people that have just given up on finding a job; they're able and willing to work, but because of reasons they can't find a job. Those might be on the dole, but they might also be able to survive off of a single income. These stats should have a category "wants to work but can't find any, and is not entitled to benefits". Or "Able to work but doesn't need to because rich".
- ajuc 9y ago
  In my country if you are on a dole and the bureau of employment finds a job for you (usually not very nice job) - you have to take it or have a good reason why you can't (health for example). If you don't - you're left on your own. Also, unemployment benefits end after 6 months no matter what.
  - distances 9y ago
    > Also, unemployment benefits end after 6 months no matter what. What happens after six months if you don't have family willing to support you? You're on the streets?
    - ajuc 9y ago
      There are other social benefits unrelated to employement (for example for kids from poor families, etc), but in principle - yes. Now it's not so bad, you can find a job if you really want (it might be bad, but it's there). In 90s we had 20% unemployment and almost no social benefits. It was rough.
    - anoncoward111 9y ago
      Quite literally, yes.
    - mk89 9y ago
      It's almost never the case. The way welfare works is kind of...buggy. You accept a job, do it for a couple of days, and that's it.
  - dx034 9y ago
    Which sounds fair, you can still apply for jobs in your sector while you're on the other job. But doing something is usually better than doing nothing, even if it's unqualified work and doesn't pay well.
- dx034 9y ago
  Underemployment reports in the US include those people. They usually also include people working part-time "for economical reasons". But that's considered underemployment, not unemployment.

I thought that in most countries, if you are on the dole, you must search for work if you are capable, or you get a severe reduction in your financial support.

by gpvos 9y ago

I thought that in most countries, if you are on the dole, you must search for work if you are capable, or you get a severe reduction in your financial support.

Cthulhu_ 9y ago

There are some people that have just given up on finding a job; they're able and willing to work, but because of reasons they can't find a job. Those might be on the dole, but they might also be able to survive off of a single income. These stats should have a category "wants to work but can't find any, and is not entitled to benefits". Or "Able to work but doesn't need to because rich".

ajuc 9y ago
In my country if you are on a dole and the bureau of employment finds a job for you (usually not very nice job) - you have to take it or have a good reason why you can't (health for example). If you don't - you're left on your own. Also, unemployment benefits end after 6 months no matter what.
- distances 9y ago
  > Also, unemployment benefits end after 6 months no matter what. What happens after six months if you don't have family willing to support you? You're on the streets?
  - ajuc 9y ago
    There are other social benefits unrelated to employement (for example for kids from poor families, etc), but in principle - yes. Now it's not so bad, you can find a job if you really want (it might be bad, but it's there). In 90s we had 20% unemployment and almost no social benefits. It was rough.
  - anoncoward111 9y ago
    Quite literally, yes.
  - mk89 9y ago
    It's almost never the case. The way welfare works is kind of...buggy. You accept a job, do it for a couple of days, and that's it.
- dx034 9y ago
  Which sounds fair, you can still apply for jobs in your sector while you're on the other job. But doing something is usually better than doing nothing, even if it's unqualified work and doesn't pay well.
dx034 9y ago
Underemployment reports in the US include those people. They usually also include people working part-time "for economical reasons". But that's considered underemployment, not unemployment.