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The article just mention a bunch of stuff that will enter the public domain. Does anybody have a better list of significant works? I believe there must be a lot

by neves 9y ago

The article just mention a bunch of stuff that will enter the public domain. Does anybody have a better list of significant works? I believe there must be a lot of nice music.

emodendroket 9y ago
I guess the key is just to look for anything from 1923.
robin_reala 9y ago
Wikipedia to the rescue: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1923_in_literature#New_books https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1923_in_literature#New_books and https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1923_in_music#Published_popular_music https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1923_in_music#Published_popula... both have good lists. I’m excited as this will open up a bunch more literature (and to a lesser extent new sources of cover art) for the Standard Ebooks project I contribute to.
- bburns_km 9y ago
  Great project! The books have really nice covers, and brief descriptions also - https://standardebooks.org/ https://standardebooks.org/
  - robin_reala 9y ago
    The descriptions are written by the producers, and explicitly donated to the public domain as part of the production. Covers are interesting. The imprint has gone for a “classic oil painting” style as a general rule of thumb and those need to be PD as well of course. That’s trickier than it sounds in the US, as to be PD they need to have been published in a book in the US pre-1923. For example, the edition of Crime and Punishment I worked on has an Edvard Munch as cover art.[1] I managed to find that reprinted in a copy of “Scandinavian Art”, published in the US in 1922.[2] Unfortunately just looking at the PD tags on commons.wikimedia isn’t good enough as they rarely provide proof and anyone can edit them; the project could get into real copyright trouble without having proof of PD. [1] https://github.com/standardebooks/fyodor-dostoevsky_crime-and-punishment_constance-garnett/blob/dfe4f4726c1e3541117e026193d6be7cdd785c2e/src/epub/images/cover.svg https://github.com/standardebooks/fyodor-dostoevsky_crime-an... [2] https://hdl.handle.net/2027/gri.ark:/13960/t8x93xv1g?urlappend=%3Bseq=591 https://hdl.handle.net/2027/gri.ark:/13960/t8x93xv1g?urlappe...
dmitriid 9y ago
The problem is much larger than just "significant works". The Missing 20th Century: How Copyright Protection Makes Books Vanish (2012), https://www.theatlantic.com/technology/archive/2012/03/the-missing-20th-century-how-copyright-protection-makes-books-vanish/255282/ https://www.theatlantic.com/technology/archive/2012/03/the-m... (one of those rare articles where it makes sense to turn your ad blocker off)
- dmitriid 9y ago
  If we're talking about significance though... Dr. Martin Luther King wrote and delivered his famous “I Have a Dream” speech more than fifty years ago. When he obtained copyright protection on the speech in 1963... the copyright on the “I Have a Dream” speech will not expire until the end of 2058. Because the Estate of Martin Luther King, Jr., Inc. and its affili- ates have closely guarded the speech in a copyright enforcement and li- censing sense, the public seldom sees more than snippets of one of the most highly regarded speeches in history. https://ir.lawnet.fordham.edu/iplj/vol25/iss4/2/ https://ir.lawnet.fordham.edu/iplj/vol25/iss4/2/ And there are many more examples like this. Copyright was supposed to foster creativity and the distribution of knowledge. Know it's used to stifle competition, and to protect corporate interests.
  - icebraining 9y ago
    the public seldom sees more than snippets of one of the most highly regarded speeches in history. It's not exactly hard to find, and perfectly legally: http://openvault.wgbh.org/catalog/A_76C3B93B557D4976A032C27C72ACED18#at_89.00_s http://openvault.wgbh.org/catalog/A_76C3B93B557D4976A032C27C...
    - dmitriid 9y ago
      http://openvault.wgbh.org/terms-and-conditions http://openvault.wgbh.org/terms-and-conditions > You may not remove, copy, alter, reproduce, modify, create derivative works of, republish, post, publicly perform, publicly display, broadcast, download, transmit, distribute, license or commercially exploit, in whole or in part, the Content or this Site, except as expressly permitted by these Terms, the functionality of the Site, or, if applicable, by the respective content owner as indicated in any end user license agreement, if any, that accompanies such Content, provided that you include without modification all copyright and other proprietary notices contained in the Content. [1] Even though the content on the site itself may be used in personal and educational setting, the content may be covered by additional licenses. And oh boy, does "I Have a Dream" have a license. And King Estate is more than happy to sue you over it. More details, are here: http://www.trademarkandcopyrightlawblog.com/2018/01/martin-luther-king-jr-and-copyright-five-things-you-should-know/ http://www.trademarkandcopyrightlawblog.com/2018/01/martin-l... and here: https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/answer-sheet/wp/2013/08/27/i-have-a-dream-speech-still-private-property/?noredirect=on&utm_term=.e9a4a8740507 https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/answer-sheet/wp/2013/08/...

by neves 9y ago

The article just mention a bunch of stuff that will enter the public domain. Does anybody have a better list of significant works? I believe there must be a lot of nice music.

emodendroket 9y ago

I guess the key is just to look for anything from 1923.

robin_reala 9y ago

Wikipedia to the rescue: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1923_in_literature#New_books https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1923_in_literature#New_books and https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1923_in_music#Published_popular_music https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1923_in_music#Published_popula... both have good lists. I’m excited as this will open up a bunch more literature (and to a lesser extent new sources of cover art) for the Standard Ebooks project I contribute to.

bburns_km 9y ago
Great project! The books have really nice covers, and brief descriptions also - https://standardebooks.org/ https://standardebooks.org/
- robin_reala 9y ago
  The descriptions are written by the producers, and explicitly donated to the public domain as part of the production. Covers are interesting. The imprint has gone for a “classic oil painting” style as a general rule of thumb and those need to be PD as well of course. That’s trickier than it sounds in the US, as to be PD they need to have been published in a book in the US pre-1923. For example, the edition of Crime and Punishment I worked on has an Edvard Munch as cover art.[1] I managed to find that reprinted in a copy of “Scandinavian Art”, published in the US in 1922.[2] Unfortunately just looking at the PD tags on commons.wikimedia isn’t good enough as they rarely provide proof and anyone can edit them; the project could get into real copyright trouble without having proof of PD. [1] https://github.com/standardebooks/fyodor-dostoevsky_crime-and-punishment_constance-garnett/blob/dfe4f4726c1e3541117e026193d6be7cdd785c2e/src/epub/images/cover.svg https://github.com/standardebooks/fyodor-dostoevsky_crime-an... [2] https://hdl.handle.net/2027/gri.ark:/13960/t8x93xv1g?urlappend=%3Bseq=591 https://hdl.handle.net/2027/gri.ark:/13960/t8x93xv1g?urlappe...

dmitriid 9y ago

The problem is much larger than just "significant works". The Missing 20th Century: How Copyright Protection Makes Books Vanish (2012), https://www.theatlantic.com/technology/archive/2012/03/the-missing-20th-century-how-copyright-protection-makes-books-vanish/255282/ https://www.theatlantic.com/technology/archive/2012/03/the-m... (one of those rare articles where it makes sense to turn your ad blocker off)

dmitriid 9y ago
If we're talking about significance though... Dr. Martin Luther King wrote and delivered his famous “I Have a Dream” speech more than fifty years ago. When he obtained copyright protection on the speech in 1963... the copyright on the “I Have a Dream” speech will not expire until the end of 2058. Because the Estate of Martin Luther King, Jr., Inc. and its affili- ates have closely guarded the speech in a copyright enforcement and li- censing sense, the public seldom sees more than snippets of one of the most highly regarded speeches in history. https://ir.lawnet.fordham.edu/iplj/vol25/iss4/2/ https://ir.lawnet.fordham.edu/iplj/vol25/iss4/2/ And there are many more examples like this. Copyright was supposed to foster creativity and the distribution of knowledge. Know it's used to stifle competition, and to protect corporate interests.
- icebraining 9y ago
  the public seldom sees more than snippets of one of the most highly regarded speeches in history. It's not exactly hard to find, and perfectly legally: http://openvault.wgbh.org/catalog/A_76C3B93B557D4976A032C27C72ACED18#at_89.00_s http://openvault.wgbh.org/catalog/A_76C3B93B557D4976A032C27C...
  - dmitriid 9y ago
    http://openvault.wgbh.org/terms-and-conditions http://openvault.wgbh.org/terms-and-conditions > You may not remove, copy, alter, reproduce, modify, create derivative works of, republish, post, publicly perform, publicly display, broadcast, download, transmit, distribute, license or commercially exploit, in whole or in part, the Content or this Site, except as expressly permitted by these Terms, the functionality of the Site, or, if applicable, by the respective content owner as indicated in any end user license agreement, if any, that accompanies such Content, provided that you include without modification all copyright and other proprietary notices contained in the Content. [1] Even though the content on the site itself may be used in personal and educational setting, the content may be covered by additional licenses. And oh boy, does "I Have a Dream" have a license. And King Estate is more than happy to sue you over it. More details, are here: http://www.trademarkandcopyrightlawblog.com/2018/01/martin-luther-king-jr-and-copyright-five-things-you-should-know/ http://www.trademarkandcopyrightlawblog.com/2018/01/martin-l... and here: https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/answer-sheet/wp/2013/08/27/i-have-a-dream-speech-still-private-property/?noredirect=on&utm_term=.e9a4a8740507 https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/answer-sheet/wp/2013/08/...