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I was under the impression that drug dogs we're mostly ineffective[1] anyway so this shouldn't be an issue. I guess this article would imply I'm misinformed.
by kentt 8y ago
I was under the impression that drug dogs we're mostly ineffective[1] anyway so this shouldn't be an issue. I guess this article would imply I'm misinformed. I'd welcome correction.
[1] https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-watch/wp/2015/08/04/federal-appeals-court-drug-dog-thats-barely-more-accurate-than-a-coin-flip-is-good-enough/?noredirect=on&utm_term=.f4481f79bd6e https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-watch/wp/2015/08/04/...
- exelius 8y agoDrug dogs don’t need to be effective; they just need to establish probable cause.
- mikeash 8y agoThat is to say, drug dogs are extremely effective, it’s just that their job is different from what their name might make you think. As long as it doesn’t result in evidence being thrown out, a drug dog that alerts when drugs aren’t present is a feature, not a bug, for the police.
- rhizome 8y agoTo put an even finer point on it, drug dogs don't need to establish probable cause, and they don't, they just provide a back door around the 4th Amendment.
- exelius 8y agoLegally they check the box, which is the important part.
- greenleafjacob 8y agoYes drug dogs need to establish probable cause, that is how they meet the requirements of the fourth amendment.
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- 0xCMP 8y agoYea well, tell that to the guy(s) who got pulled aside in-front of me for further searching at concerts and festivals.
- pessimizer 8y agoDrug dogs are excellent at barking at the person their handler wants to search.
- rhizome 8y agoIt's my understanding that that's trained out of them, and they are trained to stop and sit to signal their handler that they smell something (or whatever). This raises the question whether K9 "bite their arm off"[1] dogs are also drug dogs. I'm thinking "no," but I don't know. 1. https://www.fox4now.com/news/man-sues-punta-gorda-police-for-excessive-force-department-changes-k-9-policy https://www.fox4now.com/news/man-sues-punta-gorda-police-for...
- rosege 8y agoyou might like this https://youtu.be/QudO88GrqI0?t=47 https://youtu.be/QudO88GrqI0?t=47
- omio 8y agoAbout a decade ago I found this out the hard way... Damn dog missed over a hundred pounds of HE under its nose.
- rendaw 8y agoSo it's not the difficulty of untraining dogs, but the difficulty of untraining the handlers. Or the reason untraining drug dogs is difficult is that they hadn't actually been trained in the first place.