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I am aware the problems in China are large, and different. I didn't mean to suggest otherwise. The USA also has an immediate existential crisis right now when i
by cryptoz 9y ago
I am aware the problems in China are large, and different. I didn't mean to suggest otherwise. The USA also has an immediate existential crisis right now when it comes to pollution. To deny that is exactly how we got into such a disaster in the first place.
> Ya, it eventually kills the planet, but it doesn’t effect immediate quality of life.
I disagree with everything I am. It does immediately affect quality of life. For one, changing climate in the Bay Area and in Colorado locally is a result of changing global climates. These affect people, crops, plants, animals, everything, immediately.
Personally, my quality of life has been dramatically reduced for 30 years due to global warming and climate change from local carbon outputs. To suggest otherwise is extremely close minded and offensive.
Growing up in world and being told it is totally wrecked for generations, told that the greed of our parents' generation and before that has ravaged the Earth so completely that problems are spiralling out of control and life will be increasingly hard and complicated for people all over the world for a long time. Being told that hundreds of millions of people will be low on food due to changing climate patterns, that this is already happening, that there are droughts and wars fought over this already.
> but it doesn’t effect immediate quality of life.
Yes it does. People have died. Please be more considerate and understanding of the immense damage caused by greed and greenhouse gas pollution that is presently happening.
- seanmcdirmid 9y agoLet’s put it this way: I don’t think you have ever experienced an 800 PM2.5 day before. You would move if you did, I assume you are still living in the Bay Area, however bad you think the pollution is there, it didn’t cause you to pick up your life and start over again. In that case, your values aren’t incredibly different from mine. Let me know if any of my assumptions are incorrect.
- cryptoz 9y agoNo, I have not experienced a day like that. I'm sure I would move, too. I wasn't suggesting otherwise. Downplaying the USA's problems with pollution and dangerous materials has been a major problem for hundreds of years. The attitude that "it's worse elsewhere, America has it solved" is so incredibly dangerous. It's just not true. America does not have any of this solved. America is trying its best right now to increase the pollution in cities and decrease the air quality. Maybe the air quality isn't that bad right now, according to you or elsewhere. That doesn't mean it is okay to make it worse. That doesn't mean that we have solved it. Left alone to the current path of things, I think the USA certainly would bypass China in terms of bad air quality. The major leadership definitely wants that future it seems - that is the only end result of the current US policy.