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You terribly exagerate. Actually Gnome3 is currently the only desktop environment which gets Wayland somewhat right. I fear they got where they are by doing som

You terribly exagerate. Actually Gnome3 is currently the only desktop environment which gets Wayland somewhat right. I fear they got where they are by doing some false turns like a global lock in the compositor and client side decorations. Your systemd utterings completely lack any architectural or technological reasoning

setquk 9y ago
I'm not concerned with architectural concerns but usability. The end user, me included doesn't really care if it's Wayland or X underneath, as long as it works properly and is productive. Really anything behind the toolkit is of no concern to me. I'm not going to turn this into a debate on systemd but they managed to win the "Lamest vendor response" prize at the 2017 Pwnies. And clearly you've never been with a system down and got greeted with "Failed to get D-Bus connection: Operation not permitted" and no log entries at all. Yes adding complexity to a risky process was a fantastic idea.
- hart_russell 9y ago
  https://media.giphy.com/media/LFlT04CTtrwc/giphy.gif https://media.giphy.com/media/LFlT04CTtrwc/giphy.gif
  - gknoy 9y ago
    I appreciate the "popcorn" feeling, but HN normally strives to avoid responses like this, as they don't add quality to a conversation. This is probably why you are getting downvotes.
- bwat49 9y ago
  The user will care when gnome-shell crashes and takes out their entire session, or when their cursor is lagging/skipping. Gnome-shell wayland session still needs a lot of work imo.
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RaleyField 9y ago
> which gets Wayland somewhat right Wayland has been in development for 10 year, let's hope they fix it in the next 10.
e12e 9y ago
> Actually Gnome3 is currently the only desktop environment which gets Wayland somewhat right. Maybe true, but Ubuntu 18.04 has reverted to Xorg as standard?

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You terribly exagerate. Actually Gnome3 is currently the only desktop environment which gets Wayland somewhat right. I fear they got where they are by doing som

by jhoechtl 9y ago

setquk 9y ago
I'm not concerned with architectural concerns but usability. The end user, me included doesn't really care if it's Wayland or X underneath, as long as it works properly and is productive. Really anything behind the toolkit is of no concern to me. I'm not going to turn this into a debate on systemd but they managed to win the "Lamest vendor response" prize at the 2017 Pwnies. And clearly you've never been with a system down and got greeted with "Failed to get D-Bus connection: Operation not permitted" and no log entries at all. Yes adding complexity to a risky process was a fantastic idea.
- hart_russell 9y ago
  https://media.giphy.com/media/LFlT04CTtrwc/giphy.gif https://media.giphy.com/media/LFlT04CTtrwc/giphy.gif
  - gknoy 9y ago
    I appreciate the "popcorn" feeling, but HN normally strives to avoid responses like this, as they don't add quality to a conversation. This is probably why you are getting downvotes.
- bwat49 9y ago
  The user will care when gnome-shell crashes and takes out their entire session, or when their cursor is lagging/skipping. Gnome-shell wayland session still needs a lot of work imo.
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RaleyField 9y ago
> which gets Wayland somewhat right Wayland has been in development for 10 year, let's hope they fix it in the next 10.
e12e 9y ago
> Actually Gnome3 is currently the only desktop environment which gets Wayland somewhat right. Maybe true, but Ubuntu 18.04 has reverted to Xorg as standard?