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Once a week is insane. I have 4 computers and 2 phones. No time for that. My mother update her distro twice a year, when I come over and think about it.

copperx 9y ago
Isn't your number of computers insane? The right number of computers for most people is exactly one.
- majewsky 9y ago
  A notebook is not a gaming desktop is not a server.
- sametmax 9y ago
  My girlfriends has 3 (2 laptops, one tablet) and one phone, and she isn't even a geek. But let's be real, people installing arch don't have "one computer". Not the ones around me anyway.
  - jpetso 9y ago
    I'd like to disprove that statement with myself as a counterexample. One laptop exactly, and also PS3+4 but I don't think that counts as "computer" in this context. Yes, sometimes it would be nice to have another machine or a monitor around. Or a desk that's not a dining table, even. Oh well! Anyway, Arch works just great for this kind of use case.
majewsky 9y ago
I have 5 computers (1 notebook, 1 desktop, 3 servers) on Arch, and I update daily. The twist is that I have a cronjob that downloads all the packages in the background, then pings me via XMPP and asks for confirmation to install the updates, and if that succeeds, asks if I want to restart any services or reboot the machine (in case of kernel upgrade). That whole thing takes me about 1 minute per day.
- sametmax 9y ago
  > I have a cronjob that downloads all the packages in the background, then pings me via XMPP Yeah, you lost me there. Too much customization for me. Which is why I use Ubuntu. You see the point is not that Arch or Ubuntu is better, but that it really targets very different user bases.
mynewtb 9y ago
Time for what? Just use automation.
- sametmax 9y ago
  If you read the other comments, you'll note that it's exactly what we are talking about: we install ubuntu because we don't want to do stuff, we want the OS to mostly work out of the box and require the least setup possible.

copperx 9y ago

Isn't your number of computers insane? The right number of computers for most people is exactly one.

majewsky 9y ago
A notebook is not a gaming desktop is not a server.
sametmax 9y ago
My girlfriends has 3 (2 laptops, one tablet) and one phone, and she isn't even a geek. But let's be real, people installing arch don't have "one computer". Not the ones around me anyway.
- jpetso 9y ago
  I'd like to disprove that statement with myself as a counterexample. One laptop exactly, and also PS3+4 but I don't think that counts as "computer" in this context. Yes, sometimes it would be nice to have another machine or a monitor around. Or a desk that's not a dining table, even. Oh well! Anyway, Arch works just great for this kind of use case.

majewsky 9y ago

I have 5 computers (1 notebook, 1 desktop, 3 servers) on Arch, and I update daily. The twist is that I have a cronjob that downloads all the packages in the background, then pings me via XMPP and asks for confirmation to install the updates, and if that succeeds, asks if I want to restart any services or reboot the machine (in case of kernel upgrade). That whole thing takes me about 1 minute per day.

sametmax 9y ago
> I have a cronjob that downloads all the packages in the background, then pings me via XMPP Yeah, you lost me there. Too much customization for me. Which is why I use Ubuntu. You see the point is not that Arch or Ubuntu is better, but that it really targets very different user bases.

mynewtb 9y ago

Time for what? Just use automation.

sametmax 9y ago
If you read the other comments, you'll note that it's exactly what we are talking about: we install ubuntu because we don't want to do stuff, we want the OS to mostly work out of the box and require the least setup possible.