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Not to deny the moral hazard of using prisoners for organs, but being a Falun Gong member in China is like being an active ISIS member in the US/UK. Whatever's

Not to deny the moral hazard of using prisoners for organs, but being a Falun Gong member in China is like being an active ISIS member in the US/UK. Whatever's right or wrong, you know you're committing a crime and you're taking a risk by participating. Keeping safe is a matter of following the law even if you don't believe in it.

scandox 9y ago
Moral hazard? Moral Hazard puts one in the way of making an immoral choice. Surely killing people to take their body parts represents an actual immoral action? I didn't miss a memo or anything?
- wisty 9y ago
  They don't kill people to take body parts. They execute convicted criminals, and those prisoners automatically become organ donors. One example of the potential moral hazard is that maybe there's some corruption (maybe there's some profit being made, and judges could get kickbacks on the number of times they execute prisoners).
  - growlix 9y ago
    Who decided what constitutes a crime, and who gets convicted and executed? China isn't exactly known for the fairness of its justice system. And the quantity, youth, and low latency of organs for transplant exclude every possibility except harvesting.
binarnosp 9y ago
> Keeping safe is a matter of following the law even if you don't believe in it You should thank your ancestors for fighting the laws they didn't believe in.
thisacctforreal 9y ago
The government promoted Falun Gong for its health effects before they decided to crush it like June 4th. https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=T_cURws4UaY&t=5m32s https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=T_cURws4UaY&t=5m32s It's definitely like being targeted as a member of ISIS–but all you did to get that treatment was practice yoga and hold some spiritual beliefs.
hutzlibu 9y ago
Erm, "but being a Falun Gong member in China is like being an active ISIS member in the US/UK" from the view of the ruling party, yes. But for everybody else there is a slight difference, between a fanatic cult who wants and does try to kill everyone who thinks different and a eccentric cult whose members wants to be left alone, to do their Qi Gong.
growlix 9y ago
ISIS desires to create an authoritarian regime and commit acts of violence and destruction against most of the world's population. The Falun Gong desires to exist.

scandox 9y ago

Moral hazard? Moral Hazard puts one in the way of making an immoral choice. Surely killing people to take their body parts represents an actual immoral action? I didn't miss a memo or anything?

wisty 9y ago
They don't kill people to take body parts. They execute convicted criminals, and those prisoners automatically become organ donors. One example of the potential moral hazard is that maybe there's some corruption (maybe there's some profit being made, and judges could get kickbacks on the number of times they execute prisoners).
- growlix 9y ago
  Who decided what constitutes a crime, and who gets convicted and executed? China isn't exactly known for the fairness of its justice system. And the quantity, youth, and low latency of organs for transplant exclude every possibility except harvesting.

binarnosp 9y ago

> Keeping safe is a matter of following the law even if you don't believe in it You should thank your ancestors for fighting the laws they didn't believe in.

thisacctforreal 9y ago

The government promoted Falun Gong for its health effects before they decided to crush it like June 4th. https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=T_cURws4UaY&t=5m32s https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=T_cURws4UaY&t=5m32s It's definitely like being targeted as a member of ISIS–but all you did to get that treatment was practice yoga and hold some spiritual beliefs.

hutzlibu 9y ago

Erm, "but being a Falun Gong member in China is like being an active ISIS member in the US/UK" from the view of the ruling party, yes. But for everybody else there is a slight difference, between a fanatic cult who wants and does try to kill everyone who thinks different and a eccentric cult whose members wants to be left alone, to do their Qi Gong.

growlix 9y ago

ISIS desires to create an authoritarian regime and commit acts of violence and destruction against most of the world's population. The Falun Gong desires to exist.