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> Could it be the knowledge of the history that's holding blacks back? If everyone somehow forgot Jim Crow and slavery, would the next generation of blacks do a
by 40acres 9y ago
> Could it be the knowledge of the history that's holding blacks back? If everyone somehow forgot Jim Crow and slavery, would the next generation of blacks do as well as immigrants, do you think?
Forgetting Jim Crow and slavery is not enough -- this thread helps to illustrate that. The effects of Jim Crow and slavery would need to be eliminated.
> Also, I really think you should have some evidence at all that slavery or persecution causes intergenerational poverty after the effects have gone. I hear that theory a lot and I've never seen any science to support it. Only to support immediate poverty of the individuals who were persecuted, not their great great grandkids.
How could it not? I mean just think about the institution of slavery for a minute.. there was a time where the Mississippi Valley had more millionares than any other place in America.. how do you think that happened? Through slave ownership? Black families were literally torn apart generation after generation, they were denied the opportunity to realize the wealth their labor produced, generation after generation. A slave owner passes on his million dollar plantation to his children.. what does the slave pass to his child?
> Another counterexample is Australia - founded by convicts 200 years ago and in a much shorter time, they ended up doing very well compared to blacks since slavery.
How are the Aboriginals doing?
- lopmotr 9y ago"How could it not?" isn't scientific, it's prejudice - you're assuming the conclusion. But there are so many example of it not happening. Here's another - Jews have been persecuted for centuries, kicked out of country after country, had whole families killed in the holocaust, and yet they repeatedly bounce back. Jews in Europe today are not a disadvantaged class despite their severe persecution from all sides before and during WWII. If the effect is certain, how long does it take to wear off?
- photojosh 9y ago> How are the Aboriginals doing? Rather similar to how Native Americans are doing, I believe, not great. Their percentage of the population is similar too, around 2%? We don't have anything comparable to black slavery. Convicts when they had served their time could integrate back into society. My great-great-x4 grandfather was a British convict who got 7 years and sent to Australia for stealing a handkerchief...