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> I wonder if I could live with myself if this was my job. You are in the company, you have a job to do, everybody else is doing it. Other people share your co
by kartan 9y ago
> I wonder if I could live with myself if this was my job.
You are in the company, you have a job to do, everybody else is doing it. Other people share your concerns, but in the end, you have a feature to deliver and you don't want to fail your team. Some people is really concerned, they try to change things, they quit, they are tired of the pressure of going against the managers and making it more difficult for their own teams. Peer pressure, management pressure, etc. is an important factor. I don't think that the people that do this things get paid better than anyone else.
I have been in too many situations where your team is in the "hamster wheel" and is just doing without thinking. Fast-growing companies have the incentive to run forward, quite often without so much direction.
It is easier to not join a job that you don't want, that to not do it once you are already in. So, think before joining if that is what you want to do. Once in, you will see that they are not evil people, that they are trying the best to do their jobs. And that to change things is hard, even when is in the company best interest, so much harder when the company will lose revenue.
- sorokod 9y agoPerhaps the thought of the next job interview could help them grow a moral spine?
- freeone3000 9y agoHave your interviews focused on personal morality, or on getting the job done?
- sorokod 9y agoI did have to explain the " job done" and it's purpose.
- joosters 9y agoI guess they're "just following orders"...
- letsgetphysITal 9y agoDoesn't apply. If you resign from your job, you stop being paid. If you try and resign from the Armed Forces, you're put in prison at best.
- majewsky 9y agoYou absolutely can resign from the Armed Forces, otherwise how would there be veterans? The only difference is that you cannot resign mid-operation.
- pbhjpbhj 9y agoVeterans may have retired (different to resigning), or been demobilised (like being made redundant). You can't resign from conscription, some countries have a system whereby conscripts could serve non-combat roles; but usually it's fight or death/imprisonment. Apparently Germany had general conscription from 1935, but with lots of exceptions. By 1943 all men up to 60 were being conscripted. Follow orders or face a firing squad.
- SmellyGeekBoy 9y agoVery informative, but what does any of this have to do with Facebook?
- pbhjpbhj 9y agoIt doesn't, it's background on a side-thread response to "just following orders". The reference to WWII Germany being because the usual origin is that this was used as a mitigation by those involved in the Wehrmacht.
- eeZah7Ux 9y ago> but in the end, you have a feature to deliver In the end we are all moral agents and responsible to refuse to do ethically questionable work. You don't get fired on the spot in most companies for refusing to do something or asking to be assigned to another team. And a skilled engineer has other options for employment with a comparable salary.