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>Telegram is the most used one in Russia Not even close. Whatsapp and Viber are much more popular. Telegram was barely 3rd before the ban. [1] Viber moved the

by konart 9y ago

>Telegram is the most used one in Russia Not even close. Whatsapp and Viber are much more popular. Telegram was barely 3rd before the ban. [1] Viber moved their data to Russia, they won't get a ban. Not sure about Whatsapp. [1]: https://leonardo.osnova.io/bf345b20-423b-c508-cbc2-15963a7afea6/-/resize/560/-/quality/lightest/ https://leonardo.osnova.io/bf345b20-423b-c508-cbc2-15963a7af...

realusername 9y ago
Ah apologies, I thought Telegram was more used than that there.
giancarlostoro 9y ago
Is Viber even End to End encrypted at all?
- adventured 9y ago
  Supposedly. https://www.viber.com/blog/2018-01-28/your-data-is-protected-with-viber/ https://www.viber.com/blog/2018-01-28/your-data-is-protected... https://www.viber.com/blog/2016-04-19/giving-our-users-control-over-their-private-conversations/ https://www.viber.com/blog/2016-04-19/giving-our-users-contr...
  - 0x49d1 9y ago
    Just one remark: Viber/WhatsApp client's code is closed, where is the guarantee that they do not have some "backdoor" to the client's chat right in the application?
carlmr 9y ago
WhatsApp is probably backdoored though, so your end to end encryption will only keep your internet café from spying on you, not the governments Facebook is friendly with: https://appleinsider.com/articles/17/01/13/whatsapp-backdoor-defeats-end-to-end-encryption-potentially-allows-facebook-to-read-messages https://appleinsider.com/articles/17/01/13/whatsapp-backdoor...
- MikusR 9y ago
  You mean the the one reported by theGuardian? The one where they could not find a second security researcher to agree about? The one this public letter was about? https://techcrunch.com/2017/01/20/security-researchers-call-for-guardian-to-retract-false-whatsapp-backdoor-story/ https://techcrunch.com/2017/01/20/security-researchers-call-...
  - carlmr 9y ago
    Oh, never saw that retraction even before when I Googled it. Good catch!

by konart 9y ago

realusername 9y ago

Ah apologies, I thought Telegram was more used than that there.

giancarlostoro 9y ago

Is Viber even End to End encrypted at all?

adventured 9y ago
Supposedly. https://www.viber.com/blog/2018-01-28/your-data-is-protected-with-viber/ https://www.viber.com/blog/2018-01-28/your-data-is-protected... https://www.viber.com/blog/2016-04-19/giving-our-users-control-over-their-private-conversations/ https://www.viber.com/blog/2016-04-19/giving-our-users-contr...
- 0x49d1 9y ago
  Just one remark: Viber/WhatsApp client's code is closed, where is the guarantee that they do not have some "backdoor" to the client's chat right in the application?

carlmr 9y ago

WhatsApp is probably backdoored though, so your end to end encryption will only keep your internet café from spying on you, not the governments Facebook is friendly with: https://appleinsider.com/articles/17/01/13/whatsapp-backdoor-defeats-end-to-end-encryption-potentially-allows-facebook-to-read-messages https://appleinsider.com/articles/17/01/13/whatsapp-backdoor...

MikusR 9y ago
You mean the the one reported by theGuardian? The one where they could not find a second security researcher to agree about? The one this public letter was about? https://techcrunch.com/2017/01/20/security-researchers-call-for-guardian-to-retract-false-whatsapp-backdoor-story/ https://techcrunch.com/2017/01/20/security-researchers-call-...
- carlmr 9y ago
  Oh, never saw that retraction even before when I Googled it. Good catch!