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Why in the world! are people allowing this without making the cars pass any sort of road worthiness test? For example, make a robotic dummy walk in front of th

Why in the world! are people allowing this without making the cars pass any sort of road worthiness test? For example, make a robotic dummy walk in front of the car without notice. Does the car break and avoid a collision? Such basic things can be formulated into a test and have the cars pass them before allowing them (even with a driver) on the roads.. It amazes me that people just stand by and allow these "tests" to happen within an unsuspecting population...

_wmd 9y ago
If the vehicle emissions scandal taught us anything, standardized tests of this sort are trivially defeated
bo1024 9y ago
Amazing that humans need a license to drive legally, but algorithms don't.
imtringued 9y ago
That's exactly what Waymo does... >“We’ve staged people jumping out of canvas bags or porta-potties on the side of the road, skateboarders lying on their boards, and thrown stacks of paper in front of our sensors,” Waymo said in its report. https://www.washingtonpost.com/local/trafficandcommuting/waymos-ceo-on-fatal-autonomous-uber-crash-our-car-would-have-been-able-to-handle-it/2018/03/25/4cc97550-3046-11e8-8abc-22a366b72f2d_story.html?utm_term=.42e52d4957bb https://www.washingtonpost.com/local/trafficandcommuting/way... >For media day, they put on three of them. In one, a Honda convertible abruptly cut off one of the Pacificas just past an intersection, and the Pacifica braked to avoid it. In another, a car obscured by two parked vehicles suddenly backed out of a driveway. Again, the Pacifica came to a halt. The third was a faux moving-day scene, with a couch in the street and boxes tumbling into the lane, just as another car approached from the opposite direction. The Pacifica knew better than to swerve into the car. It braked until the coast was clear. https://www.washingtonpost.com/local/trafficandcommuting/a-glimpse-inside-the-secret-site-where-driverless-cars-undergo-20000-tests/2017/11/04/874e083c-bf15-11e7-97d9-bdab5a0ab381_story.html?utm_term=.e3fbef88d5ee https://www.washingtonpost.com/local/trafficandcommuting/a-g...
- buvanshak 9y ago
  > That's exactly what Waymo does... People should not care what Waymo does. There should be an independent body to frame these tests (with enough random stuff thrown in), and have the cars pass them. It is quite meaning less to make the cars pass tests created by the company itself. And if you see the videos, none of the people were ever in real danger. Say, where is the test when someone crosses when the car is going to 45mph? I am not asking to put real people in real danger. But just make some robotic dummy (even something on wheels will do), and make it cross without notice infront of the car when it is doing 50+mph.

_wmd 9y ago

If the vehicle emissions scandal taught us anything, standardized tests of this sort are trivially defeated

bo1024 9y ago

Amazing that humans need a license to drive legally, but algorithms don't.

imtringued 9y ago

That's exactly what Waymo does... >“We’ve staged people jumping out of canvas bags or porta-potties on the side of the road, skateboarders lying on their boards, and thrown stacks of paper in front of our sensors,” Waymo said in its report. https://www.washingtonpost.com/local/trafficandcommuting/waymos-ceo-on-fatal-autonomous-uber-crash-our-car-would-have-been-able-to-handle-it/2018/03/25/4cc97550-3046-11e8-8abc-22a366b72f2d_story.html?utm_term=.42e52d4957bb https://www.washingtonpost.com/local/trafficandcommuting/way... >For media day, they put on three of them. In one, a Honda convertible abruptly cut off one of the Pacificas just past an intersection, and the Pacifica braked to avoid it. In another, a car obscured by two parked vehicles suddenly backed out of a driveway. Again, the Pacifica came to a halt. The third was a faux moving-day scene, with a couch in the street and boxes tumbling into the lane, just as another car approached from the opposite direction. The Pacifica knew better than to swerve into the car. It braked until the coast was clear. https://www.washingtonpost.com/local/trafficandcommuting/a-glimpse-inside-the-secret-site-where-driverless-cars-undergo-20000-tests/2017/11/04/874e083c-bf15-11e7-97d9-bdab5a0ab381_story.html?utm_term=.e3fbef88d5ee https://www.washingtonpost.com/local/trafficandcommuting/a-g...

buvanshak 9y ago
> That's exactly what Waymo does... People should not care what Waymo does. There should be an independent body to frame these tests (with enough random stuff thrown in), and have the cars pass them. It is quite meaning less to make the cars pass tests created by the company itself. And if you see the videos, none of the people were ever in real danger. Say, where is the test when someone crosses when the car is going to 45mph? I am not asking to put real people in real danger. But just make some robotic dummy (even something on wheels will do), and make it cross without notice infront of the car when it is doing 50+mph.