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I'd love to work for this engineering team. Their tech blog and github is full of interesting projects.

by AJRF 9y ago

zem 9y ago
the BBC sounds like it has a really good tech team too. wonder what it is about newspapers that leads to this sort of tech culture.
- jjeaff 9y ago
  I'd say it's desperation. The traditional business model of newspapers has been upended, and the ad driven model isn't really working out that well either. So instead of doubling down and riding it to the ground, some outlets are actually innovating and making cool stuff and throwing it against the wall to see what happens.
  - SwellJoe 9y ago
    While I agree, I wouldn't think BBC would be dealing with those same pressures, being primarily (I think?) state-funded.
    - richardcrossley 9y ago
      The BBC is state funded, through the TV Licence, for use within the United Kingdom, elsewhere it is funded on a commercial basis. The web site differs between domestic (no adverts) and international (adverts). BBC Studios is the commercial arm of the BBC for licencing and distributing media outside of the United Kingdom. https://www.bbcstudios.com/about/about-us/ https://www.bbcstudios.com/about/about-us/
- slobotron 9y ago
  An excellent profiler for perl, NYTProf [0], came out of New York Times. It's still actively developed and still kicks ass - outputs easy to grok flame graphs that you can click around on to zero into any statement. More than just finding bottlenecks, I find it useful to understand workings of new codebases... [0] https://metacpan.org/pod/Devel::NYTProf https://metacpan.org/pod/Devel::NYTProf
- gh02t 9y ago
  A desire to stay relevant. Print publishers often get criticized for being behind the curve, but a few like NYT and BBC have invested heavily in the technology of their business. Not sure how much it's paid off, but my impression is they aren't struggling as much as some. I hope they manage to find the right combination to stay around, I loathe the dystopian future where Buzzfeed and Breitbart are the only news outlets.
  - scottmf 9y ago
    Buzzfeed isn’t comparable to Breitbart at all. Buzzfeed does real journalism these days.
    - gh02t 9y ago
      Their news coverage is pretty strongly slanted to the left. Just because I tend to agree with them doesn't mean I think they are really that much better than Breitbart in terms of providing objective reporting. In any event, what I meant was that I don't want a future where we only have sources of "news" that serve to reinforce our pre-existing beliefs, with everybody siloed into their own particular little bubbles.
  - adventured 9y ago
    The NYT fortunately seems to be transitioning moderately well to digital at this point. They seem to have the wind at their back now. There was a period of time, spanning a decade or so, where it was very questionable if they'd make it or could survive on digital. Their stock is at an 11 year high. Sales are growing again. Profitability looks set to surpass where they were several years ago. If it weren't for some stray costs & adjustments in Q4, they might have hit $100m+ in profit in 2017, the highest since 2010. Their balance sheet is solid, long-term debt is modest ($250m), and they have plenty of cash ($490m). Overall, it should be a good decade coming up for the NYT.
  - coob 9y ago
    The BBC publish magazines but I wouldn't describe them as a print publisher. They're a broadcaster.
- scottishfiction 9y ago
  Thanks. That's kind of you to say. We're also hiring. https://careerssearch.bbc.co.uk/jobs/search https://careerssearch.bbc.co.uk/jobs/search
- fao_ 9y ago
  It's a good melting pot for people who are passionate about writing, design, and ideas. Kind of like how all of the best programmers have some kind of log or blog that they post in. While this could very well be some form of survivor bias, I think that just having to put effort into articulating your thoughts in a coherent way now and then improves other parts of your thinking.
- gaius 9y ago
  Come hell or high water, the paper has to be on the newsstands the next morning. It is the very definition of mission-critical computing. I worked on the Graun’s website/publishing backend in the late 90’s. Lots of Tcl/Tk.
albertsun 9y ago
We're hiring! You should apply! https://nytimes.wd5.myworkdayjobs.com/Tech/job/New-York-NY/Software-Engineer---CMS-Team_REQ-002866 https://nytimes.wd5.myworkdayjobs.com/Tech/job/New-York-NY/S...
- sugarpile 9y ago
  Any backend openings? I've been looking to move into frontend work more but don't think my experience is there yet.
  - albertsun 9y ago
    There are! We're hiring for lots of open technology jobs here https://nytimes.wd5.myworkdayjobs.com/en-US/Tech https://nytimes.wd5.myworkdayjobs.com/en-US/Tech For backend specifically, on the CMS team there's this job https://nytimes.wd5.myworkdayjobs.com/en-US/Tech/job/New-York-NY/Senior-Engineer---CMS-Team_REQ-001792-1 https://nytimes.wd5.myworkdayjobs.com/en-US/Tech/job/New-Yor... or a fun one with the cooking team https://nytimes.wd5.myworkdayjobs.com/en-US/Tech/job/New-York-NY/Backend-Engineer--NYT-Cooking_REQ-002250-1 https://nytimes.wd5.myworkdayjobs.com/en-US/Tech/job/New-Yor...
  - mdigan 9y ago
    If you're looking for a backend role, we're also hiring in New York Times Data Engineering--application engineers, data engineers, and database reliability engineers: https://nytimes.wd5.myworkdayjobs.com/en-US/Tech/job/New-York-NY/Full-Stack-Application-Engineer_REQ-001898 https://nytimes.wd5.myworkdayjobs.com/en-US/Tech/job/New-Yor... https://nytimes.wd5.myworkdayjobs.com/en-US/Tech/job/New-York-NY/Data-Engineer--Data-Warehouse-Team_REQ-001067-1 https://nytimes.wd5.myworkdayjobs.com/en-US/Tech/job/New-Yor... https://nytimes.wd5.myworkdayjobs.com/en-US/Tech/job/New-York-NY/Database-Reliability-Engineer_REQ-002263 https://nytimes.wd5.myworkdayjobs.com/en-US/Tech/job/New-Yor...
  - mattberkowitz 9y ago
    I'm an engineer on our CMS team and as Albert mentioned we're currently seeking both back-end and front-end team members. We're not opposed to hiring skilled developers that don't have deep experience the specific language or frameworks we use. There's also always the option of joining the back-end and transitioning over time to a more front-end role. If you're interested, I'm happy to answer any questions or connect you to the hiring manager.

I'd love to work for this engineering team. Their tech blog and github is full of interesting projects.

by AJRF 9y ago

I'd love to work for this engineering team. Their tech blog and github is full of interesting projects.

zem 9y ago

the BBC sounds like it has a really good tech team too. wonder what it is about newspapers that leads to this sort of tech culture.

jjeaff 9y ago
I'd say it's desperation. The traditional business model of newspapers has been upended, and the ad driven model isn't really working out that well either. So instead of doubling down and riding it to the ground, some outlets are actually innovating and making cool stuff and throwing it against the wall to see what happens.
- SwellJoe 9y ago
  While I agree, I wouldn't think BBC would be dealing with those same pressures, being primarily (I think?) state-funded.
  - richardcrossley 9y ago
    The BBC is state funded, through the TV Licence, for use within the United Kingdom, elsewhere it is funded on a commercial basis. The web site differs between domestic (no adverts) and international (adverts). BBC Studios is the commercial arm of the BBC for licencing and distributing media outside of the United Kingdom. https://www.bbcstudios.com/about/about-us/ https://www.bbcstudios.com/about/about-us/
slobotron 9y ago
An excellent profiler for perl, NYTProf [0], came out of New York Times. It's still actively developed and still kicks ass - outputs easy to grok flame graphs that you can click around on to zero into any statement. More than just finding bottlenecks, I find it useful to understand workings of new codebases... [0] https://metacpan.org/pod/Devel::NYTProf https://metacpan.org/pod/Devel::NYTProf
gh02t 9y ago
A desire to stay relevant. Print publishers often get criticized for being behind the curve, but a few like NYT and BBC have invested heavily in the technology of their business. Not sure how much it's paid off, but my impression is they aren't struggling as much as some. I hope they manage to find the right combination to stay around, I loathe the dystopian future where Buzzfeed and Breitbart are the only news outlets.
- scottmf 9y ago
  Buzzfeed isn’t comparable to Breitbart at all. Buzzfeed does real journalism these days.
  - gh02t 9y ago
    Their news coverage is pretty strongly slanted to the left. Just because I tend to agree with them doesn't mean I think they are really that much better than Breitbart in terms of providing objective reporting. In any event, what I meant was that I don't want a future where we only have sources of "news" that serve to reinforce our pre-existing beliefs, with everybody siloed into their own particular little bubbles.
- adventured 9y ago
  The NYT fortunately seems to be transitioning moderately well to digital at this point. They seem to have the wind at their back now. There was a period of time, spanning a decade or so, where it was very questionable if they'd make it or could survive on digital. Their stock is at an 11 year high. Sales are growing again. Profitability looks set to surpass where they were several years ago. If it weren't for some stray costs & adjustments in Q4, they might have hit $100m+ in profit in 2017, the highest since 2010. Their balance sheet is solid, long-term debt is modest ($250m), and they have plenty of cash ($490m). Overall, it should be a good decade coming up for the NYT.
- coob 9y ago
  The BBC publish magazines but I wouldn't describe them as a print publisher. They're a broadcaster.
scottishfiction 9y ago
Thanks. That's kind of you to say. We're also hiring. https://careerssearch.bbc.co.uk/jobs/search https://careerssearch.bbc.co.uk/jobs/search
fao_ 9y ago
It's a good melting pot for people who are passionate about writing, design, and ideas. Kind of like how all of the best programmers have some kind of log or blog that they post in. While this could very well be some form of survivor bias, I think that just having to put effort into articulating your thoughts in a coherent way now and then improves other parts of your thinking.
gaius 9y ago
Come hell or high water, the paper has to be on the newsstands the next morning. It is the very definition of mission-critical computing. I worked on the Graun’s website/publishing backend in the late 90’s. Lots of Tcl/Tk.

albertsun 9y ago

We're hiring! You should apply! https://nytimes.wd5.myworkdayjobs.com/Tech/job/New-York-NY/Software-Engineer---CMS-Team_REQ-002866 https://nytimes.wd5.myworkdayjobs.com/Tech/job/New-York-NY/S...

sugarpile 9y ago
Any backend openings? I've been looking to move into frontend work more but don't think my experience is there yet.
- albertsun 9y ago
  There are! We're hiring for lots of open technology jobs here https://nytimes.wd5.myworkdayjobs.com/en-US/Tech https://nytimes.wd5.myworkdayjobs.com/en-US/Tech For backend specifically, on the CMS team there's this job https://nytimes.wd5.myworkdayjobs.com/en-US/Tech/job/New-York-NY/Senior-Engineer---CMS-Team_REQ-001792-1 https://nytimes.wd5.myworkdayjobs.com/en-US/Tech/job/New-Yor... or a fun one with the cooking team https://nytimes.wd5.myworkdayjobs.com/en-US/Tech/job/New-York-NY/Backend-Engineer--NYT-Cooking_REQ-002250-1 https://nytimes.wd5.myworkdayjobs.com/en-US/Tech/job/New-Yor...
- mdigan 9y ago
  If you're looking for a backend role, we're also hiring in New York Times Data Engineering--application engineers, data engineers, and database reliability engineers: https://nytimes.wd5.myworkdayjobs.com/en-US/Tech/job/New-York-NY/Full-Stack-Application-Engineer_REQ-001898 https://nytimes.wd5.myworkdayjobs.com/en-US/Tech/job/New-Yor... https://nytimes.wd5.myworkdayjobs.com/en-US/Tech/job/New-York-NY/Data-Engineer--Data-Warehouse-Team_REQ-001067-1 https://nytimes.wd5.myworkdayjobs.com/en-US/Tech/job/New-Yor... https://nytimes.wd5.myworkdayjobs.com/en-US/Tech/job/New-York-NY/Database-Reliability-Engineer_REQ-002263 https://nytimes.wd5.myworkdayjobs.com/en-US/Tech/job/New-Yor...
- mattberkowitz 9y ago
  I'm an engineer on our CMS team and as Albert mentioned we're currently seeking both back-end and front-end team members. We're not opposed to hiring skilled developers that don't have deep experience the specific language or frameworks we use. There's also always the option of joining the back-end and transitioning over time to a more front-end role. If you're interested, I'm happy to answer any questions or connect you to the hiring manager.