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Anyone know if Oak is (or will be) released as Open Source?

by zellyn 9y ago

lambda 9y ago
ProseMirror, the underlying editor they are using, is: https://prosemirror.net/ https://prosemirror.net/
- zellyn 9y ago
  Yep. That was clear from the article.
  - parvenu74 9y ago
    I suspect that NYT will contribute quite a bit back to ProseMirror out of enlightened self-interest but not give away the secret sauce that make Oak a competitive advantage for them. This is REAL freedom in software: without the ability to build a closed-source, for-profit business it won't succeed. I'll take MIT/BSD/Apache over something with a herpes license (GPL/AGPL) any day.
    - geofft 9y ago
      Can we leave the Slashdot-quality trolling about licensing back in the previous millennium where it belongs? There are, of course, successful projects licensed under the GPL and AGPL (Linux comes to mind), many of which have for-profit businesses; there are plenty of people with different priorities about what "REAL freedom" is. And calling the licenses that match their priorities "herpes licenses" is unlikely to convince them.
      - parvenu74 9y ago
        Trolling aside, the freedom allowed to not show all of your cards that MIT/MSD/Apache allows is better for business, and if the app is essential to their business then they will contribute fixes back upstream. An example is Juniper and their myriad contributions to FreeBSD. This allows Juniper to pull down upstream updates without it being a complete goat-rope to integrate with their own secret sauce code; if Juniper were using Linux instead of FreeBSD then anyone could demand full source code and sell knock-off solutions based on Juniper's work and the result would be less actual development of the technology (for lack of profit motive).
        geofft 9y ago
        That shows that it is better for some businesses, which no one disputes. For other businesses, the compulsion for others to share their work results in a better product, and tbeir profit motives are more aligned with a better product in an absolute sense than being better than competitors, and so being compelled to release source is a worthwhile tradeoff for everyone else doing so too.
onurozkan 9y ago
Not Oak, but you might interest in Grid. https://github.com/the-grid/ed https://github.com/the-grid/ed Built on top of Prosemirror.
- Ralfp 9y ago
  Last commit over year ago.

Anyone know if Oak is (or will be) released as Open Source?

by zellyn 9y ago

Anyone know if Oak is (or will be) released as Open Source?

lambda 9y ago

ProseMirror, the underlying editor they are using, is: https://prosemirror.net/ https://prosemirror.net/

zellyn 9y ago
Yep. That was clear from the article.
- parvenu74 9y ago
  I suspect that NYT will contribute quite a bit back to ProseMirror out of enlightened self-interest but not give away the secret sauce that make Oak a competitive advantage for them. This is REAL freedom in software: without the ability to build a closed-source, for-profit business it won't succeed. I'll take MIT/BSD/Apache over something with a herpes license (GPL/AGPL) any day.
  - geofft 9y ago
    Can we leave the Slashdot-quality trolling about licensing back in the previous millennium where it belongs? There are, of course, successful projects licensed under the GPL and AGPL (Linux comes to mind), many of which have for-profit businesses; there are plenty of people with different priorities about what "REAL freedom" is. And calling the licenses that match their priorities "herpes licenses" is unlikely to convince them.
    - parvenu74 9y ago
      Trolling aside, the freedom allowed to not show all of your cards that MIT/MSD/Apache allows is better for business, and if the app is essential to their business then they will contribute fixes back upstream. An example is Juniper and their myriad contributions to FreeBSD. This allows Juniper to pull down upstream updates without it being a complete goat-rope to integrate with their own secret sauce code; if Juniper were using Linux instead of FreeBSD then anyone could demand full source code and sell knock-off solutions based on Juniper's work and the result would be less actual development of the technology (for lack of profit motive).
      - geofft 9y ago
        That shows that it is better for some businesses, which no one disputes. For other businesses, the compulsion for others to share their work results in a better product, and tbeir profit motives are more aligned with a better product in an absolute sense than being better than competitors, and so being compelled to release source is a worthwhile tradeoff for everyone else doing so too.

onurozkan 9y ago

Not Oak, but you might interest in Grid. https://github.com/the-grid/ed https://github.com/the-grid/ed Built on top of Prosemirror.

Ralfp 9y ago
Last commit over year ago.