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> Tesla is extremely clear Oct'16 video on https://www.tesla.com/autopilot https://www.tesla.com/autopilot says Driver is only there for legal reasons https:/

by jijojv 9y ago

> Tesla is extremely clear Oct'16 video on https://www.tesla.com/autopilot https://www.tesla.com/autopilot says Driver is only there for legal reasons https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/823632597284691969 https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/823632597284691969 " Yes, safety should improve significantly due to autonomy features, even if regs disallow no driver present 23 Jan 2017"

jimrandomh 9y ago
The system shown in that video is making autonomous turns and doing other things that the in-the-hands-of-consumers autopilot definitely can't do.
fmihaila 9y ago
> Oct'16 video on https://www.tesla.com/autopilot https://www.tesla.com/autopilot says Driver is only there for legal reasons That may come back to haunt them. For those not clicking it, the above link goes to a video showing the Autopilot in action. The white-on-black, full-screen text prefacing the demo is not doing them any favours in the debate about their messaging (all-caps are in the original): "THE PERSON IN THE DRIVER'S SEAT IS ONLY THERE FOR LEGAL REASONS." "HE IS NOT DOING ANYTHING. THE CAR IS DRIVING ITSELF."
- Dylan16807 9y ago
  Car demos are almost always "do not attempt" and violating this or that, so when they say the driver wasn't necessary for the demo I don't personally extrapolate that to say anything about real life.
  - fmihaila 9y ago
    > Car demos are almost always "do not attempt" and violating this or that Ads like those explicitly include 'do not attempt' disclaimers; this video does not. The statement it does include only emphasizes how advanced the system is. > so when they say the driver wasn't necessary for the demo I don't personally extrapolate that to say anything about real life. You do not, but the question is how many jurors would see it the same way when a highly skilled lawyer argues that this video is misleading, as part of his efforts to hurt Tesla in a liability suit.
freerobby 9y ago
This isn't footage of Autopilot. It's a development build of Full Self-Driving.
- unityByFreedom 9y ago
  That's odd. It's the only video and topmost content on a page titled Autopilot.
  - freerobby 9y ago
    Yeah, there's a very fair criticism around what exactly Tesla is advertising here. As a safety matter, I am pretty confident that nobody gets through configuration and delivery (let alone a test drive) thinking this is what their car does when they turn on Autopilot.

by jijojv 9y ago

jimrandomh 9y ago

The system shown in that video is making autonomous turns and doing other things that the in-the-hands-of-consumers autopilot definitely can't do.

fmihaila 9y ago

> Oct'16 video on https://www.tesla.com/autopilot https://www.tesla.com/autopilot says Driver is only there for legal reasons That may come back to haunt them. For those not clicking it, the above link goes to a video showing the Autopilot in action. The white-on-black, full-screen text prefacing the demo is not doing them any favours in the debate about their messaging (all-caps are in the original): "THE PERSON IN THE DRIVER'S SEAT IS ONLY THERE FOR LEGAL REASONS." "HE IS NOT DOING ANYTHING. THE CAR IS DRIVING ITSELF."

Dylan16807 9y ago
Car demos are almost always "do not attempt" and violating this or that, so when they say the driver wasn't necessary for the demo I don't personally extrapolate that to say anything about real life.
- fmihaila 9y ago
  > Car demos are almost always "do not attempt" and violating this or that Ads like those explicitly include 'do not attempt' disclaimers; this video does not. The statement it does include only emphasizes how advanced the system is. > so when they say the driver wasn't necessary for the demo I don't personally extrapolate that to say anything about real life. You do not, but the question is how many jurors would see it the same way when a highly skilled lawyer argues that this video is misleading, as part of his efforts to hurt Tesla in a liability suit.

freerobby 9y ago

This isn't footage of Autopilot. It's a development build of Full Self-Driving.

unityByFreedom 9y ago
That's odd. It's the only video and topmost content on a page titled Autopilot.
- freerobby 9y ago
  Yeah, there's a very fair criticism around what exactly Tesla is advertising here. As a safety matter, I am pretty confident that nobody gets through configuration and delivery (let alone a test drive) thinking this is what their car does when they turn on Autopilot.