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Okay, sure. They changed the arm core. But the IO, the single USB port (internal), the video core, the lack of sata, poor SD card speed, these all remain.

gitgreen 9y ago
It's a hobbyist computer/learning platform whose biggest draws are price and community support. Demand/support isn't flagging so performance and connectivity doesn't seem to be an issue for the target market. The biggest community wishes were answered, more USB ports and bundled wifi. If the RPi can't keep up with what you're doing there are plenty of other more powerful and more expensive options out there.
- m-p-3 9y ago
  The problem right now is that you have to choose between good community support or a better/faster SoC. I wish there was a Raspberry Pi 4 with 2x USB 2.0, 1xUSB 3.0, 1xUSB-C 3.0, Gigabit Ethernet and 802.11ac.
  - duskwuff 9y ago
    The 3+ has half of what you're looking for: 802.11ac and gigabit ethernet (although it's limited to ~300 Mbps by USB2). That all being said, I feel like what you're looking for is a small-form-factor computer, not a development board. :)
- makomk 9y ago
  There are plenty of more powerful and cheaper options too, it's just that the Raspberry Pi has mindshare amongst people writing about hobbyist and maker stuff. I have decidedly mixed feelings about the Raspberry Pi community as a whole; while they're certainly vocal and numerous, they used to have an unfortunate cultural tendency towards blaming any problems on the users being too stupid to use a Pi, even ones caused by major bugs in the Pi itself.
  - kajecounterhack 9y ago
    Wondering if you can link some examples of this? Genuinely curious. I've been using the Pi for some for-fun projects lately and haven't encountered limitations caused by the platform just yet so I haven't experienced this (yet? hopefully ever?).
  - elliotec 9y ago
    What are some more powerful cheaper options?
    - geerlingguy 9y ago
      Orange Pi and ODROID-C2, and there are a few slightly more expensive but vastly faster and higher specced options (like the Tinker Board). But the onboarding experience and ongoing support is usually far worse than with the Pi.
      - kingosticks 9y ago
        At least in the UK, the ODROID-C2 is around £50 (compared to £35 for the latest Rpi). So Yeh more powerful, but ~50% more expensive.
imtringued 9y ago
Hopefully the RockPro64 will be released soon. Major features 2x A72 + 4x a53. (4000 in geekbench) mini PCIe connector/PCIe x4 (supports SATA expansion card) USB 3.0 Prices Rockpro64 2GB board, $59-65 Rockpro64 4GB board, $79 Rockpro64-AI 4GB board, $99 https://forum.pine64.org/showthread.php?tid=5614 https://forum.pine64.org/showthread.php?tid=5614

gitgreen 9y ago

It's a hobbyist computer/learning platform whose biggest draws are price and community support. Demand/support isn't flagging so performance and connectivity doesn't seem to be an issue for the target market. The biggest community wishes were answered, more USB ports and bundled wifi. If the RPi can't keep up with what you're doing there are plenty of other more powerful and more expensive options out there.

m-p-3 9y ago
The problem right now is that you have to choose between good community support or a better/faster SoC. I wish there was a Raspberry Pi 4 with 2x USB 2.0, 1xUSB 3.0, 1xUSB-C 3.0, Gigabit Ethernet and 802.11ac.
- duskwuff 9y ago
  The 3+ has half of what you're looking for: 802.11ac and gigabit ethernet (although it's limited to ~300 Mbps by USB2). That all being said, I feel like what you're looking for is a small-form-factor computer, not a development board. :)
makomk 9y ago
There are plenty of more powerful and cheaper options too, it's just that the Raspberry Pi has mindshare amongst people writing about hobbyist and maker stuff. I have decidedly mixed feelings about the Raspberry Pi community as a whole; while they're certainly vocal and numerous, they used to have an unfortunate cultural tendency towards blaming any problems on the users being too stupid to use a Pi, even ones caused by major bugs in the Pi itself.
- kajecounterhack 9y ago
  Wondering if you can link some examples of this? Genuinely curious. I've been using the Pi for some for-fun projects lately and haven't encountered limitations caused by the platform just yet so I haven't experienced this (yet? hopefully ever?).
- elliotec 9y ago
  What are some more powerful cheaper options?
  - geerlingguy 9y ago
    Orange Pi and ODROID-C2, and there are a few slightly more expensive but vastly faster and higher specced options (like the Tinker Board). But the onboarding experience and ongoing support is usually far worse than with the Pi.
    - kingosticks 9y ago
      At least in the UK, the ODROID-C2 is around £50 (compared to £35 for the latest Rpi). So Yeh more powerful, but ~50% more expensive.

imtringued 9y ago

Hopefully the RockPro64 will be released soon. Major features 2x A72 + 4x a53. (4000 in geekbench) mini PCIe connector/PCIe x4 (supports SATA expansion card) USB 3.0 Prices Rockpro64 2GB board, $59-65 Rockpro64 4GB board, $79 Rockpro64-AI 4GB board, $99 https://forum.pine64.org/showthread.php?tid=5614 https://forum.pine64.org/showthread.php?tid=5614