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She didn't think she was being specifically targeted. In one of her rants she specifically stated that she knew of many other content creators having their vid

She didn't think she was being specifically targeted. In one of her rants she specifically stated that she knew of many other content creators having their videos censored, age restricted, and demonetized. Her methods are nuts, obviously, but her beef with Youtube is entirely justified. The end result, unfortunately, isn't going to be Google/Amazon/Facebook/etc... realizing the error of their ways - it's going to be them over-reacting to protect themselves. I expect Silicon Valley campuses will get locked down. I expect any content that even slightly might maybe insinuate violence will get taken down. tldr; The problem is going to get worse before it gets better.

MBCook 9y ago
I don’t agree that will happen, but it may be good if it does. It’s about time many of these companies start to realize their decisions have very real consequences on people’s lives (in who makes money/a living and who doesn’t, harassment levels) and their seemingly capricious decisions and rule changes are very problematic. They’re not the small semi-isolated bubbles they used to be, they’re powerful entities that have large effects on the online economy. Obviously they shouldn’t be subject to physical attacks/assaults/etc. But YouTube is not what it was in 2007 anymore.
- Faark 9y ago
  Yeah, they should probably have censored way earlier to prevent that. They now have to go through with getting rid of the radicals they raised. Or re-open the floodgates, accept even more radicalization and thus even more painful consequences later down the line. Just like most problems, ignoring them rarely makes them go away and you instead loose you most pleasant remaining ways out.
eh78ssxv2f 9y ago
> "...but her beef with Youtube is entirely justified." I am curious as to how we concluded that? Until now, we have only heard her side of the story, and not that of YouTube. May be she was violating ToS? There could be thousands of well-justified reasons for YouTube to terminate her account. Without hearing the other side of the story, how do we know that her beef was entirely justified? And, of course, there is the usual argument that YouTube is a platform owned by a private entity. Nobody has a justifiable right to put their video on YouTube and earn revenue from it.
- otempomores 9y ago
  The TOS. Her whole point was that the TOS are arbitrarily enforced. Its a two class system that is strict because automatetd for small entities and handwaves all rules for paying customers and companies.

MBCook 9y ago

I don’t agree that will happen, but it may be good if it does. It’s about time many of these companies start to realize their decisions have very real consequences on people’s lives (in who makes money/a living and who doesn’t, harassment levels) and their seemingly capricious decisions and rule changes are very problematic. They’re not the small semi-isolated bubbles they used to be, they’re powerful entities that have large effects on the online economy. Obviously they shouldn’t be subject to physical attacks/assaults/etc. But YouTube is not what it was in 2007 anymore.

Faark 9y ago
Yeah, they should probably have censored way earlier to prevent that. They now have to go through with getting rid of the radicals they raised. Or re-open the floodgates, accept even more radicalization and thus even more painful consequences later down the line. Just like most problems, ignoring them rarely makes them go away and you instead loose you most pleasant remaining ways out.

eh78ssxv2f 9y ago

> "...but her beef with Youtube is entirely justified." I am curious as to how we concluded that? Until now, we have only heard her side of the story, and not that of YouTube. May be she was violating ToS? There could be thousands of well-justified reasons for YouTube to terminate her account. Without hearing the other side of the story, how do we know that her beef was entirely justified? And, of course, there is the usual argument that YouTube is a platform owned by a private entity. Nobody has a justifiable right to put their video on YouTube and earn revenue from it.

otempomores 9y ago
The TOS. Her whole point was that the TOS are arbitrarily enforced. Its a two class system that is strict because automatetd for small entities and handwaves all rules for paying customers and companies.