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So if this person was not an employee, it's amazing to me how she got into the building? Usually these large tech campuses are pretty locked down, with at least
by jd20 9y ago
So if this person was not an employee, it's amazing to me how she got into the building? Usually these large tech campuses are pretty locked down, with at least one badged entrance, and security or front desk staff watching who comes and goes.
That said, I've never visited the YouTube campus, so maybe it bucks the norm.
- bitumen 9y agoThe shooting appeared to occur or at least begin in an outdoor cafe area.
- rdl 9y agoIt was outdoors. Also, I have only been to a couple SV tech companies where they had solid enough doors/etc. at entrance to actually stop someone going in shooting from getting inside; the security is really just there for keeping homeless out, as well as to enforce corp secrecy/etc.
- jd20 9y agoI see, early reports seemed to indicate the shooter was at a party, possibly inside. Really sad when employees in the bay area, which is generally very safe, have to fear for their lives because of something their employer may have done to piss someone off.
- rdl 9y agoThis incident was enough of an outlier that probably the correct thing to do is nothing, although that's really hard for people to accept. I'd just recommend improved first aid/trauma response (put AEDs around, train people to CLS standard).
- sitkack 9y agoAs sad as this is, dying in a car crash is more likely.
- sneak 9y ago> Really sad when employees in the bay area, which is generally very safe, have to fear for their lives because of something their employer may have done to piss someone off. It would be if that were true, but it isn’t. Even if there were an order of magnitude more attacks along these lines it would not warrant anyone having to fear for their life as they would still be exceedingly rare.
- subcosmos 9y agoBut some people do fear for their life, because this kind of shit has happened to them before.
- womperGompers 9y agoAnd, so, you're proposing a civilized society where such a thing should be accounted for, and every specific, nuanced experience should be catered to, no matter how personal?
- subcosmos 9y agoI'm proposing a civilized society whereby people cease invalidating others feelings and prior experiences.
- Endy 9y agoWell, perhaps they should consider the morality of their employers' actions then. If everyone who considered working at Alphabet/Google/YouTube lived by 'Don't Be Evil', either the company would have less employees or they wouldn't inspire such rage and pain. EDIT: You know, I do find it interesting that every time I use the original Google slogan in a post, I get downvoted. Why do people not want to remember how much they have changed?
- michaelt 9y agoI've never seen a tech workplace where you couldn't tailgate through the access control. Not saying that's what happened in this case, but anyone who thinks tech workplaces are locked down has very different experiences to me.
- jd20 9y agoThe times I've visited Apple or Facebook, there's always one if not several security guards watching each person badge in, to ensure you don't tailgate. Facebook's main building even has those optical turnstiles, to make it harder (as if the guards weren't imposing enough). Probably the smaller buildings are much easier to tailgate? Or maybe Facebook and Apple just don't represent the norm in the valley.
- ryandrake 9y agoApple (maybe FB too, I have no direct knowledge) is an extreme case where they take physical security extremely seriously. From day one employees are instructed that everyone badges in, even if it’s a whole group of employees entering who all know each other. You badge even while someone is holding the door for you. If you see someone behind you who forgot to badge you stop them: even if they’re the Senior VP, doesn’t matter.