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1. Telegram - Not p2p 2. Tox - p2p 3. Whatsapp - Not p2p 4. Signal - Not p2p Putting the above aside: If Tox doesn't work for you, your best mobile-friendly
by niksakl 9y ago
1. Telegram - Not p2p
2. Tox - p2p
3. Whatsapp - Not p2p
4. Signal - Not p2p
Putting the above aside: If Tox doesn't work for you, your best mobile-friendly options are: 1) Signal and 2) as others have mentioned Matrix - if you want a self hosted and federated solution.
[edited: addendum] i now realize you probably mean p2p-encrypted messaging. Damn semantics of non-formal languages!
- qznc 9y agoMy guess is that the intention was "E2E encrypted".
- niksakl 9y agoYes, i guessed the same, but after i posted the original answer.
- pnutjam 9y agoNo love for SpiderOak's Semaphor. It's a secure end-to-end encrypted system. Free for 5 users or less. https://spideroak.com/semaphor/ https://spideroak.com/semaphor/
- itakedrugs 9y agoHow do you call P2P that is strictly without any third party?
- asdsa5325 9y agoWhat does "third party" in your question refer to? Are you referring to servers that route client-side encrypted messages from user to user?
- itakedrugs 9y agoYes, so that messages can reach a user even if the receiving and sending users are never online at the same time (a server could be another user/peer(s) that isn't part of the communication, so it could possibly still be called p2p?)
- dilippkumar 9y agop2p strictly implies no third parties. If there is a third party involved, you are not p2p.
- itakedrugs 9y agoso if other users (not part of the conversation) are used as temporary servers so that messages get delivered even if the sender or receiver are never connected at the same time, what would it be called?
- dilippkumar 9y agoAFAIK there isn't a modern word to describe the common architecture that you describe. About a decade ago, the phrase "hub-and-spokes network" was thrown around to describe an architecture with a central server that acted as the mediator. The term "p2p" became popular in this context. ( Napster, bittorrent, tox are all "p2p" because they don't connect to single server. Skype is not "p2p" because all packets go through the skype servers.
- sliken 9y agoSkype used to be p2p, except for the original auth/login. But since then microsoft bought the company and push everything through their servers.
- keynan 9y agoThat is incorrect. You've just defined P2P such that no commonly accepted P2P application meets it. At a minimum every P2P app you've likely ever heard of or used, baring maybe one exception, has at a minimum used third parties for orchestration.