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Hi, even if a data breach hadn't happened, did you have any concerns about people within the company having access to those photos? I also use myfitnesspal and

by borne0 9y ago

Hi, even if a data breach hadn't happened, did you have any concerns about people within the company having access to those photos? I also use myfitnesspal and strava but I have a strong aversion to sharing that kind of info with anyone, period. I'm 36, is this a generational thing?

craftkiller 9y ago
I'm 9 years your junior and I wouldn't care if pictures of me fully naked were all over the internet, but at the same time I'm a privacy freak. I think the division for me is: my image says nothing about me other than my love of gluttony, but my words and actions are my identity.
- jlarocco 9y ago
  I guess it's a philosophical issue, but I would consider my physical image to be a part of my identity. In a way it's a reflection of a person's actions.
- mygo 9y ago
  Even if you don’t personally identify with it, your love of gluttony can be used by others to identity you. So in that sense it’s a part of your identity.
Mononokay 9y ago
> I'm 36, is this a generational thing? I wouldn't say so. I'm significantly younger than you and I feel the same way.
pavel_lishin 9y ago
I'm 34, and I don't care. I also tend to walk around naked, without much care if someone spots me through a window - though I try not to obviously flash the neighbors through the kitchen window, which is the only real direct easy sightline. I used to be really insecure about being nude - I requested, and got permission to, change somewhere besides the locker room in middle school - but I think I don't care anymore, and I don't really know when this change came about.
- celticninja 9y ago
  I think there is a difference between the ephemeral nature of someone spotting you naked and naked pics.of you preserved online forever
  - pavel_lishin 9y ago
    That's true - and I have actually had a nude photo of myself leaked when I was in high school. Oddly, I didn't care much then, either. But in any case, the n-parent comment didn't mention the photo being totally nude, anyway.
- komali2 9y ago
  Same here - my new roommate is constantly closing the blinds at night because he doesn't want the old lady in the building across from us see us sit around and play video games, I guess. I remember refusing to shower after the gym because I didn't want people to see my wiener. I think it changed when my friend's bathroom's door lock was broken. His brother was about to go in and was the kind of guy that liked to announce it before doing so. I warned him about the door, and he goes "so?" I remember being very surprised he didn't care, so I ask "Well, what if someone walks in on you taking a dump?" He laughs. "I'd say, 'get out of here, I'm taking a dump!'" That was nearly 18 years ago and it sticks in my mind so well.
  - azinman2 9y ago
    So you became less embarrassed at his easy dismissal of something that you were afraid of?
    - komali2 9y ago
      Exactly. Even moreso, he made me realize there was nothing to fear. This "what's the worse that could happen, and how must I react" mindset has carried across to so many things for me. What's the worse that could happen if someone walks in on my taking a dump? Well... I guess they'll have seen me taking a dump! And I'll tell them to leave! What's the worse that could happen in this cold call? Well, I guess he could call me an asshole and hangup, and I'll make another call! What's the worse that could happen if I ask for a raise? I get told no, and continue on with my day! Etc.
wingkongex 9y ago
Did you used to care that some dude at CVS would have possession of your photographs for hours at a time when you went to get them developed?
- bigiain 9y ago
  So it seems that yes - this is a generational thing :-) (I'd be curious to run a straw-poll to find out how many Hackernews ever actually got "photographs developed"...)
  - swozey 9y ago
    I'm 34 and I've never had photos developed. When I was old enough (14-15?) to care about taking pictures of things I had one of those Sony Mavica floppy disk cameras that could hold something like, I dunno, 30-50 pictures. But, on the flip side, every time I goto Walgreens there's people getting photos developed.
- borne0 9y ago
  No, it didn't. But you took the chance the individual at that location was supremely interested in certain types of photos, whereas now if a '10x' developer was given access to a large amount of data they could zone in on what they want. Upon writing my concerns out I am struck by how narcissistic and unlikely it sounds, but I still think I'd be a bit queasy when I click upload.
- gowld 9y ago
  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/One_Hour_Photo https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/One_Hour_Photo
- syshum 9y ago
  I never really took a large number of photos, when I did they were Digital or Polaroid, and yes part of that was because of privacy
- tsumnia 9y ago
  Well, the Polaroid camera was also a popular product during that same era. So I'd say, yes, people did care.
komali2 9y ago
Pretty sure there's pics of my butthole on the internet, idgaf at this point
- pbhjpbhj 9y ago
  Is it identifiable as you though. There are some roles in society where you might be discounted for having images like that around.
  - corpMaverick 9y ago
    There is some old joke. If you suddenly woke up naked in the street and you only had a small square of cloth. What would you cover ? Answer: your face.
enobrev 9y ago
I'm almost 40 and this sort of thing doesn't bother me whatsoever. If someone wants to spend months flipping through billions of photos of strangers who are trying to lose weight, I couldn't possibly be bothered by it. In most cases, when I send _anything_ to anyone, I do so accepting the fact that it may one-day end up as public knowledge. That hasn't stopped me from the occasional drunk tweet, but I won't send naked photos of myself to anyone, even privately. If I hadn't regained the 25 lbs I lost last year using MyFitnessPal, I might not mind as much. That said, I also do my banking online, so I'm not exactly strict about it.
komali2 9y ago
I think it's entirely personal, and I wouldn't judge anybody for being less, er, voyeuristic than me. I'm kinda into it TBH. From my perspective, what's the worse that could happen? Russia already has my dick pics, probably. If someone sent them to my mom, I'd say, "mom, don't look at those." If they sent them to my employer, I'd say "hey guys, looks like I was hacked lol." Probably wouldn't be fired over it and if I was I could just get a different job. If it somehow blew up on the internet I'd just become an anonymous remote contract worker or something. This is kind of a fun exercise in threat management actually, the threat being my dadbod being exposed. Maybe I'm not taking it seriously enough? I know people that have had naked pictures of them exposed and it was traumatizing for them. For some reason I just don't think it would be for me. EDIT: That's not to say the exposure wouldn't be an objectively shitty thing to do... just because I think I can handle it doesn't mean anybody else should have to worry about this kind of thing happening to them.
syshum 9y ago
>> I also use myfitnesspal and strava but I have a strong aversion to sharing that kind of info with anyone, period. I signed up with completely fake info, and a email address only for myfitnesspal, My account has no photos, very little to no personal info, only a food/exercise log, recipes, and weight records. Sad to see soo many in this thread seemingly not care about personal privacy anymore. Privacy has died an no one even cares. //Late 30's in age

by borne0 9y ago

craftkiller 9y ago

I'm 9 years your junior and I wouldn't care if pictures of me fully naked were all over the internet, but at the same time I'm a privacy freak. I think the division for me is: my image says nothing about me other than my love of gluttony, but my words and actions are my identity.

jlarocco 9y ago
I guess it's a philosophical issue, but I would consider my physical image to be a part of my identity. In a way it's a reflection of a person's actions.
mygo 9y ago
Even if you don’t personally identify with it, your love of gluttony can be used by others to identity you. So in that sense it’s a part of your identity.

Mononokay 9y ago

> I'm 36, is this a generational thing? I wouldn't say so. I'm significantly younger than you and I feel the same way.

pavel_lishin 9y ago

I'm 34, and I don't care. I also tend to walk around naked, without much care if someone spots me through a window - though I try not to obviously flash the neighbors through the kitchen window, which is the only real direct easy sightline. I used to be really insecure about being nude - I requested, and got permission to, change somewhere besides the locker room in middle school - but I think I don't care anymore, and I don't really know when this change came about.

celticninja 9y ago
I think there is a difference between the ephemeral nature of someone spotting you naked and naked pics.of you preserved online forever
- pavel_lishin 9y ago
  That's true - and I have actually had a nude photo of myself leaked when I was in high school. Oddly, I didn't care much then, either. But in any case, the n-parent comment didn't mention the photo being totally nude, anyway.
komali2 9y ago
Same here - my new roommate is constantly closing the blinds at night because he doesn't want the old lady in the building across from us see us sit around and play video games, I guess. I remember refusing to shower after the gym because I didn't want people to see my wiener. I think it changed when my friend's bathroom's door lock was broken. His brother was about to go in and was the kind of guy that liked to announce it before doing so. I warned him about the door, and he goes "so?" I remember being very surprised he didn't care, so I ask "Well, what if someone walks in on you taking a dump?" He laughs. "I'd say, 'get out of here, I'm taking a dump!'" That was nearly 18 years ago and it sticks in my mind so well.
- azinman2 9y ago
  So you became less embarrassed at his easy dismissal of something that you were afraid of?
  - komali2 9y ago
    Exactly. Even moreso, he made me realize there was nothing to fear. This "what's the worse that could happen, and how must I react" mindset has carried across to so many things for me. What's the worse that could happen if someone walks in on my taking a dump? Well... I guess they'll have seen me taking a dump! And I'll tell them to leave! What's the worse that could happen in this cold call? Well, I guess he could call me an asshole and hangup, and I'll make another call! What's the worse that could happen if I ask for a raise? I get told no, and continue on with my day! Etc.

wingkongex 9y ago

Did you used to care that some dude at CVS would have possession of your photographs for hours at a time when you went to get them developed?

bigiain 9y ago
So it seems that yes - this is a generational thing :-) (I'd be curious to run a straw-poll to find out how many Hackernews ever actually got "photographs developed"...)
- swozey 9y ago
  I'm 34 and I've never had photos developed. When I was old enough (14-15?) to care about taking pictures of things I had one of those Sony Mavica floppy disk cameras that could hold something like, I dunno, 30-50 pictures. But, on the flip side, every time I goto Walgreens there's people getting photos developed.
borne0 9y ago
No, it didn't. But you took the chance the individual at that location was supremely interested in certain types of photos, whereas now if a '10x' developer was given access to a large amount of data they could zone in on what they want. Upon writing my concerns out I am struck by how narcissistic and unlikely it sounds, but I still think I'd be a bit queasy when I click upload.
gowld 9y ago
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/One_Hour_Photo https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/One_Hour_Photo
syshum 9y ago
I never really took a large number of photos, when I did they were Digital or Polaroid, and yes part of that was because of privacy
tsumnia 9y ago
Well, the Polaroid camera was also a popular product during that same era. So I'd say, yes, people did care.

komali2 9y ago

Pretty sure there's pics of my butthole on the internet, idgaf at this point

pbhjpbhj 9y ago
Is it identifiable as you though. There are some roles in society where you might be discounted for having images like that around.
- corpMaverick 9y ago
  There is some old joke. If you suddenly woke up naked in the street and you only had a small square of cloth. What would you cover ? Answer: your face.

enobrev 9y ago

I'm almost 40 and this sort of thing doesn't bother me whatsoever. If someone wants to spend months flipping through billions of photos of strangers who are trying to lose weight, I couldn't possibly be bothered by it. In most cases, when I send _anything_ to anyone, I do so accepting the fact that it may one-day end up as public knowledge. That hasn't stopped me from the occasional drunk tweet, but I won't send naked photos of myself to anyone, even privately. If I hadn't regained the 25 lbs I lost last year using MyFitnessPal, I might not mind as much. That said, I also do my banking online, so I'm not exactly strict about it.

komali2 9y ago

I think it's entirely personal, and I wouldn't judge anybody for being less, er, voyeuristic than me. I'm kinda into it TBH. From my perspective, what's the worse that could happen? Russia already has my dick pics, probably. If someone sent them to my mom, I'd say, "mom, don't look at those." If they sent them to my employer, I'd say "hey guys, looks like I was hacked lol." Probably wouldn't be fired over it and if I was I could just get a different job. If it somehow blew up on the internet I'd just become an anonymous remote contract worker or something. This is kind of a fun exercise in threat management actually, the threat being my dadbod being exposed. Maybe I'm not taking it seriously enough? I know people that have had naked pictures of them exposed and it was traumatizing for them. For some reason I just don't think it would be for me. EDIT: That's not to say the exposure wouldn't be an objectively shitty thing to do... just because I think I can handle it doesn't mean anybody else should have to worry about this kind of thing happening to them.

syshum 9y ago

>> I also use myfitnesspal and strava but I have a strong aversion to sharing that kind of info with anyone, period. I signed up with completely fake info, and a email address only for myfitnesspal, My account has no photos, very little to no personal info, only a food/exercise log, recipes, and weight records. Sad to see soo many in this thread seemingly not care about personal privacy anymore. Privacy has died an no one even cares. //Late 30's in age