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Mixing some things together, uh? You can't tell me that you windows drives you nuts, and keeps tweaking and tweaking making it worse. Still it is (your opinion

Mixing some things together, uh? You can't tell me that you windows drives you nuts, and keeps tweaking and tweaking making it worse. Still it is (your opinion) better as linux GUIs or Apple's one. And as arguments you mention playing games, watch movies, and browse the web?! All three are possible on all mentioned systems. The last two even in the completely same way as on windows (besides user interface). I am just glad that i switched to the other two options and never had to look back. Apple also fucks up things. Still a pretty solid system for my use case. Also i am not able to see the iOS-varent movement you mentioned. Also Linux GUIs get better and better. It shocks me everytime what Windows Users tolerate while bashing the other two system, when i have to configure something on our AD (only used Windows Server in house). Inconsistent GUI Designs on expensive software, xbox gaming center preinstalled on a SERVER EDITION, everything shuffeled together, ...

komali2 9y ago
I can't speak for the server stuff, but objectively speaking gamers should be using Windows 10. Even just ignoring DirectX, it has the highest compatibility with the most popular games and most up to date drivers. I use Debian for work but the gaming rig is straight Windows. Shame SteamOS never took of, I was into it (got the steam wifi dongly doo on the TV in the living room with four steam controllers lol)
- mattnewton 9y ago
  I have a Windows 10 license literally only for gaming and they still manage to make that a horrible experience, between first party xbone controllers regularly disconnecting, forced updates happening in the middle of a game (because the clock can’t remmeber my time zone reliably), and random issues like broken Ethernet drivers (on my skylake-era motherboard) after an update, or ads for some office 365 ripping me out of a full screen game. Every time it happens I just think how much I paid for this experience. If steam on Linux supported 1/10rd of triple A titles instead of 1/100th I would switch and never look back.
avoutthere 9y ago
> you mention playing games, watch movies, and browse the web?! All three are possible on all mentioned systems How is Far Cry 5 on Linux? How about MacOS?
- sidlls 9y ago
  That has more to do with ubiquity than quality.
fhood 9y ago
Owner of windows 10 desktop, windows 7 laptop, and macbook pro here. Windows can go to hell. So many important things are crazy inconsistent. When plugging headphones stops being a complicated and finicky process I will consider re-evaluating my opinions. Also do you know what the difference between a Windows fuckup and a macOS fuckup is? The macOS fuckup makes news while the Windows one in business as usual. And there are adds. Built in to my OS. Fuck that.
- wbkang 9y ago
  Actually Windows has one of the easiest ways to switch between Audio outputs, right from the taskbar. I have no idea what you are talking about.
  - fhood 9y ago
    I don't think you have used a Mac recently then. When you plug headphones in, the sound outputs through the headphones. And it works if the computer was off when you plugged them in. Or asleep. Or closed. I probably care way to much about this.
    - gokhan 9y ago
      > When you plug headphones in, the sound outputs through the headphones. That's how Windows 10 behaves for me. I already knew it, but just tried again for you playing a movie using VLC and plugging in my headphones. Works like a charm.
      - fhood 9y ago
        No pop-up menus?
        jyrkesh 9y ago
        I think that's a vendor implementation. I used a Lenovo for a long time, worked perfectly without a pop-up. Just got a Dell XPS 15, it pops up a prompt when I plug stuff in (but it also allows me to set a default behavior, so.... ‍️
AnimalMuppet 9y ago
> You can't tell me that you windows drives you nuts, and keeps tweaking and tweaking making it worse. Still it is (your opinion) better as linux GUIs or Apple's one. Sure they can tell you that. X can be a disaster and a pain to use, and still be better than Y, if Y is a worse disaster.
fencepost 9y ago
You can't tell me that you windows drives you nuts, and keeps tweaking and tweaking making it worse. Still it is (your opinion) better as linux GUIs or Apple's one. This is Emacs vs vi/vim vs GUI editors (Scintilla-based, Sublime, Electron-based, whatever). You can feel that Emacs is the best thing ever, but still hate Ctrl-Alt-Shift-Meta combinations. You can love vi and still sometimes get annoyed about switching modes. Seems to me that part of what he's feeling is that MacOS has become the unwanted outsider, and frankly most people have better things to do / aren't OCD enough to want to spend a bunch of time trying different windowing systems.

komali2 9y ago

I can't speak for the server stuff, but objectively speaking gamers should be using Windows 10. Even just ignoring DirectX, it has the highest compatibility with the most popular games and most up to date drivers. I use Debian for work but the gaming rig is straight Windows. Shame SteamOS never took of, I was into it (got the steam wifi dongly doo on the TV in the living room with four steam controllers lol)

mattnewton 9y ago
I have a Windows 10 license literally only for gaming and they still manage to make that a horrible experience, between first party xbone controllers regularly disconnecting, forced updates happening in the middle of a game (because the clock can’t remmeber my time zone reliably), and random issues like broken Ethernet drivers (on my skylake-era motherboard) after an update, or ads for some office 365 ripping me out of a full screen game. Every time it happens I just think how much I paid for this experience. If steam on Linux supported 1/10rd of triple A titles instead of 1/100th I would switch and never look back.

avoutthere 9y ago

> you mention playing games, watch movies, and browse the web?! All three are possible on all mentioned systems How is Far Cry 5 on Linux? How about MacOS?

sidlls 9y ago
That has more to do with ubiquity than quality.

fhood 9y ago

Owner of windows 10 desktop, windows 7 laptop, and macbook pro here. Windows can go to hell. So many important things are crazy inconsistent. When plugging headphones stops being a complicated and finicky process I will consider re-evaluating my opinions. Also do you know what the difference between a Windows fuckup and a macOS fuckup is? The macOS fuckup makes news while the Windows one in business as usual. And there are adds. Built in to my OS. Fuck that.

wbkang 9y ago
Actually Windows has one of the easiest ways to switch between Audio outputs, right from the taskbar. I have no idea what you are talking about.
- fhood 9y ago
  I don't think you have used a Mac recently then. When you plug headphones in, the sound outputs through the headphones. And it works if the computer was off when you plugged them in. Or asleep. Or closed. I probably care way to much about this.
  - gokhan 9y ago
    > When you plug headphones in, the sound outputs through the headphones. That's how Windows 10 behaves for me. I already knew it, but just tried again for you playing a movie using VLC and plugging in my headphones. Works like a charm.
    - fhood 9y ago
      No pop-up menus?
      - jyrkesh 9y ago
        I think that's a vendor implementation. I used a Lenovo for a long time, worked perfectly without a pop-up. Just got a Dell XPS 15, it pops up a prompt when I plug stuff in (but it also allows me to set a default behavior, so.... ‍️

AnimalMuppet 9y ago

> You can't tell me that you windows drives you nuts, and keeps tweaking and tweaking making it worse. Still it is (your opinion) better as linux GUIs or Apple's one. Sure they can tell you that. X can be a disaster and a pain to use, and still be better than Y, if Y is a worse disaster.

fencepost 9y ago

You can't tell me that you windows drives you nuts, and keeps tweaking and tweaking making it worse. Still it is (your opinion) better as linux GUIs or Apple's one. This is Emacs vs vi/vim vs GUI editors (Scintilla-based, Sublime, Electron-based, whatever). You can feel that Emacs is the best thing ever, but still hate Ctrl-Alt-Shift-Meta combinations. You can love vi and still sometimes get annoyed about switching modes. Seems to me that part of what he's feeling is that MacOS has become the unwanted outsider, and frankly most people have better things to do / aren't OCD enough to want to spend a bunch of time trying different windowing systems.