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Also: Facebook works on every platform, while at Signal they have a strange cellphone fetish. I would love to use Signal, but I have to use Telegram. The Teleg

by kome 9y ago

Also: Facebook works on every platform, while at Signal they have a strange cellphone fetish. I would love to use Signal, but I have to use Telegram. The Telegram desktop app is awesome, and it doesn't need a cellphone.

IshKebab 9y ago
WhatsApp didn't work on every platform. Not really. The web interface is just a remote control for your phone.
- kome 9y ago
  good point.
zrth 9y ago
Unlike telegram, signal supports e2e encryption on Linux, Mac, windows, Android and ios.
anilakar 9y ago
Signal has a desktop app nowadays and Telegram still requires a phone number to use. While Signal's QR code pairing method is more awkward than Telegram's SMS one, it also prevents your account from getting hacked remotely in Iran by stealing your SMS messages: https://securityaffairs.co/wordpress/49976/intelligence/telegram-massive-hack-iran.html https://securityaffairs.co/wordpress/49976/intelligence/tele...
- kome 9y ago
  But with Signal you still need a smartphone (i.e: very bad for privacy); while with telegram you don't. Also, with Telegram you can protect the account with a password, so you can use a burner phone, literally once, and then forget about it.
  - def_true_false 9y ago
    With Telegram you have no privacy - no one uses the e2ee (secret chats). Perhaps because the desktop client doesn't support the feature, and even if it did, secret chats wouldn't sync across devices.
    - kome 9y ago
      it's not like the chats are in clear text, because they are not. They aren't encrypted e2e, but they are still encrypted.
GyYZTfWBfQw 9y ago
Wire works on every platform (you don't need a cellphone to sign up, only e-mail), and they released their server code a while ago as well, and documentations on how to set it up is work in progress, which means that in the future (actually even now, but most people don't know how to set it up :P) you won't even have to rely on their servers, you can easily self-host one. https://wire.com/en/download/ https://wire.com/en/download/ https://github.com/wireapp/wire-desktop https://github.com/wireapp/wire-desktop https://github.com/wireapp/wire-server https://github.com/wireapp/wire-server https://wire.com/en/security/ https://wire.com/en/security/

by kome 9y ago

IshKebab 9y ago

WhatsApp didn't work on every platform. Not really. The web interface is just a remote control for your phone.

kome 9y ago
good point.

zrth 9y ago

Unlike telegram, signal supports e2e encryption on Linux, Mac, windows, Android and ios.

anilakar 9y ago

Signal has a desktop app nowadays and Telegram still requires a phone number to use. While Signal's QR code pairing method is more awkward than Telegram's SMS one, it also prevents your account from getting hacked remotely in Iran by stealing your SMS messages: https://securityaffairs.co/wordpress/49976/intelligence/telegram-massive-hack-iran.html https://securityaffairs.co/wordpress/49976/intelligence/tele...

kome 9y ago
But with Signal you still need a smartphone (i.e: very bad for privacy); while with telegram you don't. Also, with Telegram you can protect the account with a password, so you can use a burner phone, literally once, and then forget about it.
- def_true_false 9y ago
  With Telegram you have no privacy - no one uses the e2ee (secret chats). Perhaps because the desktop client doesn't support the feature, and even if it did, secret chats wouldn't sync across devices.
  - kome 9y ago
    it's not like the chats are in clear text, because they are not. They aren't encrypted e2e, but they are still encrypted.

GyYZTfWBfQw 9y ago

Wire works on every platform (you don't need a cellphone to sign up, only e-mail), and they released their server code a while ago as well, and documentations on how to set it up is work in progress, which means that in the future (actually even now, but most people don't know how to set it up :P) you won't even have to rely on their servers, you can easily self-host one. https://wire.com/en/download/ https://wire.com/en/download/ https://github.com/wireapp/wire-desktop https://github.com/wireapp/wire-desktop https://github.com/wireapp/wire-server https://github.com/wireapp/wire-server https://wire.com/en/security/ https://wire.com/en/security/