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1). Attack conservatives as 'Russian agents' and remove their online platforms. 2). Attack liberals as 'Russian agents' and remove their online platforms. 3).
by zeth___ 9y ago
1). Attack conservatives as 'Russian agents' and remove their online platforms.
2). Attack liberals as 'Russian agents' and remove their online platforms.
3). Only let corporate friendly publications have online platforms since you can't trust anyone else.
You'd think people would have realized this would happen since it's what always happens when you start silencing opinions you don't agree with.
- mistermann 9y agoSometimes I wonder if Donald Trump is a plant, because people are practically begging the government for disarmament and censorship.
- B1FF_PSUVM 9y agoMy pet theory is that his role is to keep the disaffected inside the tent long enough to not matter.
- ghostbrainalpha 9y agoHonestly... I will Paypal you $50 to delete this comment.
- fein 9y agoI've seen a lot of #1, but not a whole lot of #2, and #3 seems to be pushing #2's agenda. Just curious on what "liberals" have had their online platforms removed. From my general experience with the internet since my youth, it seems that online discussion in unmoderated communities seems to be fairly "conservative" in that they are brutally honest and unwilling to accommodate others special interests.
- laretluval 9y agoTFA is an example of #2. But I agree that on the whole #1 seems a lot more common.
- fein 9y agoTFA didn't have a platform removed, the post is on tumblr on their own account, after all.
- jim-jim-jim 9y agoThere has been an attempt by establishment Democrats and their sycophantic media outlets to discredit anybody left of Clinton as a Russian shill for some time now. See troll farm operators like David Brock, Peter Daou, and their wine mom loyalists. I realize that is not the same thing as de-platforming somebody, but it's a deliberate sowing of FUD to bolster a reactionary agenda.
- AFNobody 9y agoWith the exception of Jill Stein, who has been targeted? As far as I'm aware, the accusations against the Green party's candidate were credible. She also, frankly, is not really left of Clinton and has a number of ideas that are more "fringe nutters" and less politics.
- Consultant32452 9y agoJimmy Dore is the only one I'm familiar with.
- AFNobody 9y agoFair but a sample size I can count on one hand where none of them being a standard bearer for the Left doesn't really fill me with concern.
- alphabettsy 9y agoCalling anyone on the left with reservations/questions about Clinton a Bernie Bro doesn’t ring a bell?
- zeth___ 9y ago* Violent Bernie Bro.
- AFNobody 9y ago> There has been an attempt by establishment Democrats and their sycophantic media outlets to discredit anybody left of Clinton as a Russian shill for some time now. https://www.rawstory.com/2017/03/russians-used-bernie-bros-as-unwitting-agents-in-disinformation-campaign-senate-intel-witness/ https://www.rawstory.com/2017/03/russians-used-bernie-bros-a... > Supporters of Vermont Sen. Bernie Sanders (I) reported earlier this month that during the 2016 election, their social media feeds and pro-Sanders Facebook groups were inundated with what they now believe were Russian bots spewing anti-Hillary memes including fake news stories about Clinton using a body double and murdering her ideological opponents. Over time the anti-Clinton online faction became known by the nickname “Bernie Bros.” That was a Russian propaganda tactic which the Democrats/Media then amplified that on the assumption those were really Bernie supporters. So...once again...its something credible being blown out of proportion, at worst.
- zeth___ 9y agoThen I suggest you go into any liberal leaning online space and talk about liberal issues like income inequality. You will be banned for being a something-apologist. That the liberal online spaces have effectively self censored much more effectively than the conservative ones doesn't change the fact a majority of people can no longer participate.
- baursak 9y agoOP probably meant "progressive" instead of liberal. Here's one example: https://www.wsws.org/en/articles/2017/08/02/pers-a02.html https://www.wsws.org/en/articles/2017/08/02/pers-a02.html Leftist journalists are routinely denied access to mainstream media platforms and are then accused of being "useful idiots" or "Russian trolls" when the only media platforms they're allowed on are places like RT or Telesur.
- bilbo0s 9y agoUnfortunately these days we're forced to consider the possibility that even your post is part of a professional manipulation campaign. Or mine. Or every other post out here. We just don't know. That's the crux of the problem for me. Nowadays, I'm so jaded that I trust no one. It's sad. I've lost trust, and I don't think I can get it back.
- kickling 9y agoIt's probably a good thing, at least on the Internet.
- landryraccoon 9y agoDoes trust mean automatically taking for granted the truth of anonymous statements you read online? If so that trust never should have existed in the first place, and it should be gone forever.
- aoeusnth1 9y agoNot taken as truth, but taken as in good faith by default. The amount of manipulative and dishonest content has gone up quite a bit.
- RyanZAG 9y agoHas it gone up, or have you only been made aware of it now?
- golergka 9y agoThat's exactly what was written on 4chan's /b/ for years. Despite having a ridiculous reputation, this place was always excellent at helping it's users develop the right attitude toward internet in general: don't trust anyone, don't let your emotions take control, and don't be so damn serious.
- watwut 9y agoThe last descriptor I would use for 4chan is "cold calm rational".