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I have never lived nor been educated in China. :) I do take interest in global affairs and enjoy developing big picture analysis esp about the future. I feel

I have never lived nor been educated in China. :) I do take interest in global affairs and enjoy developing big picture analysis esp about the future. I feel like I can agree that the education system, based on observation from afar, could possibly be weak on "creativity" as traditionally defined. However, if you look at their Gaokao math questions, it requires much more creativity to solve than SAT Quantitative. For example, https://www.quora.com/Are-there-any-examples-of-hard-Chinese-Gaokao-math-questions https://www.quora.com/Are-there-any-examples-of-hard-Chinese... Creativity has broad meanings, and each culture may value and support its expression in different terms.

foodislove 9y ago
Agreed The Gaokao reference you make is interesting. One of the biggest complains about standardized testing in the States is that it pushes teachers to "teach to the test". The Gaokao takes that to the extreme. It's much harder than the SAT quant, but the way my cousin and her class prepped for years is literally prepping for the test. Imagine the SAT quant prep book with its "These are they types of questions you will encounter in the test" and take that a few steps further. Wayy higher level maths and more, but not infinite, models of questions on which they prep for every day and night for years.
- nopinsight 9y ago
  By extension of your statement, would solving International Math Olympiad questions only require intensive preparation and not creativity as well? (IMO topics are limited by design.) How about writing programs to solve problems someone else has solved elsewhere (and you are not privy to the solution)?
  - foodislove 9y ago
    Exactly. That's how we prepped for Putnam That writing programs to solve problems that someone else has solved elsewhere? That's called IBM Watson and Jeopardy.
    - nopinsight 9y ago
      Interesting. So what would be your definition and/or examples of 'creativity' in math, science, or software development?

foodislove 9y ago

Agreed The Gaokao reference you make is interesting. One of the biggest complains about standardized testing in the States is that it pushes teachers to "teach to the test". The Gaokao takes that to the extreme. It's much harder than the SAT quant, but the way my cousin and her class prepped for years is literally prepping for the test. Imagine the SAT quant prep book with its "These are they types of questions you will encounter in the test" and take that a few steps further. Wayy higher level maths and more, but not infinite, models of questions on which they prep for every day and night for years.

nopinsight 9y ago
By extension of your statement, would solving International Math Olympiad questions only require intensive preparation and not creativity as well? (IMO topics are limited by design.) How about writing programs to solve problems someone else has solved elsewhere (and you are not privy to the solution)?
- foodislove 9y ago
  Exactly. That's how we prepped for Putnam That writing programs to solve problems that someone else has solved elsewhere? That's called IBM Watson and Jeopardy.
  - nopinsight 9y ago
    Interesting. So what would be your definition and/or examples of 'creativity' in math, science, or software development?