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How soon will reddit follow? The great purge has started. Guns removed from YouTube and reddit. Now meet up portions are being nuked.

smt88 9y ago
Guns removed from YT and reddit are totally different. They're corporations choosing to ban certain content from their own platform. Craigslist is responding to a change in the law, which isn't comparable.
- jMyles 9y ago
  It's comparable insofar as, in each case the sociopolitical temperature of the moment has resulted in a reduction of the content available to users, even if the actual dynamic varies in the important ways you point out.
  - jerezzprime 9y ago
    But one is through mandated censorship, the other is voluntary. YouTube decided to stop serving certain content to better serve it's customers, that is it's perogative as a business. Nothing is preventing a competitor from hosting such content.
    - thrden 9y ago
      its hard to see that its anything but censorship when these platforms hold a pure monopoly on the space. If Gutenberg prevented anything displeasing to him from being printed, we would rightly see that as censorship. Further, censorship takes place in many ways only a small number are the result of state actors. In Mexico reporting on the cartels will cause them to target and perhaps kill you.
      - smt88 9y ago
        If you want to argue that a good defense against censorship is to prevent a single entity from having too much power, I agree.
    - TeMPOraL 9y ago
      One is mandated, other is voluntary, but they both reflect the same phenomenon happening in the society - that more and more topics are becoming "not acceptable" and thus get eliminated from popular areas on-line.
InternetUser 9y ago
If you mean Reddit's Personals, a major difference is that the posts don't use pictures--and it's not like the posters use their first and last name as their username or anywhere in their post--so hopefully that'll keep it safe. After all, the main personals section has "148,372 readers" and right now, as of 11:57 PM Eastern Time, "1,946" are logged in. https://www.reddit.com/r/r4r/ https://www.reddit.com/r/r4r/
- zrobotics 9y ago
  Curious here, how does lack of pictures or first/last name have any bearing here? From what I understand, any of these reasons could also apply to reddit as well.
- pmoriarty 9y ago
  "If you mean Reddit's Personals, a major difference is that the posts don't use pictures" Craigslist did not require ads to have pictures, and there were plenty of ads that didn't have them.
dahdum 9y ago
They’ve already started banning all the subs about escorts, prostitution, sugar daddies, etcetera today in response. Also subs like BeerTrade, BazaarMarkets , and other marketplaces. Say goodbye to an era. I’m sure many more will get the axe over time.
- flamedoge 9y ago
  decentralized network can't come soon enough. I foresee YC, Reddit, Youtube, FB, and alike get supplanted by technology that has no ownership.
  - abritinthebay 9y ago
    Every single decentralized version of those sites has died a death due to a) being pretty awful b) attracting completely terrible users as it’s base c) terrible user experience. What do you see changing?
    - confounded 9y ago
      Ordinary people wanting an alternative, would, I imagine, change all three.
      - abritinthebay 9y ago
        They will want an alternative but there’s no compelling (to the average user) reason why it has to be a decentralized alternative.
    - josephagoss 9y ago
      > What do you see changing? As the internet becomes a resource that is completely boring and out of touch to 15-40 year olds people will flock to a less restrictive system. As eyeballs move over people will invest time and effort into making those systems usable. This happened with the internet and can happen again with decentralized systems.
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alexc05 9y ago
I wonder if this is why they axed all of their "firearms sales" https://www.engadget.com/2018/03/21/reddit-bans-communities-trading-firearms-and-drugs/ https://www.engadget.com/2018/03/21/reddit-bans-communities-... The social site has updated its policies to ban the trade of firearms, explosives, drugs (including alcohol and tobacco), services with "physical sexual contact," stolen goods, personal info and counterfeits. Accordingly, Reddit has shut down numerous subreddits that either directly traded in these goods or were clearly meant to enable those exchanges, including r/gunsforsale, r/stealing (yes, it existed) and r/darknetmarkets. Perhaps they were taking a broad interpretation of something in the legal language.
2aa07e2 9y ago
I can never understand how can Reddit's subs, such as girlsgonewild, not require proof that the participants are indeed adults who are not being exploited by others. On the other hand it might be better a better deal for a number of people to perform webcam "modeling" instead of being constantly exploited as a sex slave.
fokinsean 9y ago
What gun vids were removed from Youtube? I heard about this controversy yesterday, I just looked up "Glock 19 safety tips" and there were over 200,000 videos.
- post_break 9y ago
  They are getting scrubbed in April. https://support.google.com/youtube/answer/7667605?hl=en https://support.google.com/youtube/answer/7667605?hl=en
  - cabaalis 9y ago
    That rule seems fairly narrow to me. Selling certain accessories, modifying the guns, etc. I am hoping the ones I've watched on Youtube about people firing and reviewing different guns will not be affected.

smt88 9y ago

Guns removed from YT and reddit are totally different. They're corporations choosing to ban certain content from their own platform. Craigslist is responding to a change in the law, which isn't comparable.

jMyles 9y ago
It's comparable insofar as, in each case the sociopolitical temperature of the moment has resulted in a reduction of the content available to users, even if the actual dynamic varies in the important ways you point out.
- jerezzprime 9y ago
  But one is through mandated censorship, the other is voluntary. YouTube decided to stop serving certain content to better serve it's customers, that is it's perogative as a business. Nothing is preventing a competitor from hosting such content.
  - thrden 9y ago
    its hard to see that its anything but censorship when these platforms hold a pure monopoly on the space. If Gutenberg prevented anything displeasing to him from being printed, we would rightly see that as censorship. Further, censorship takes place in many ways only a small number are the result of state actors. In Mexico reporting on the cartels will cause them to target and perhaps kill you.
    - smt88 9y ago
      If you want to argue that a good defense against censorship is to prevent a single entity from having too much power, I agree.
  - TeMPOraL 9y ago
    One is mandated, other is voluntary, but they both reflect the same phenomenon happening in the society - that more and more topics are becoming "not acceptable" and thus get eliminated from popular areas on-line.

InternetUser 9y ago

If you mean Reddit's Personals, a major difference is that the posts don't use pictures--and it's not like the posters use their first and last name as their username or anywhere in their post--so hopefully that'll keep it safe. After all, the main personals section has "148,372 readers" and right now, as of 11:57 PM Eastern Time, "1,946" are logged in. https://www.reddit.com/r/r4r/ https://www.reddit.com/r/r4r/

zrobotics 9y ago
Curious here, how does lack of pictures or first/last name have any bearing here? From what I understand, any of these reasons could also apply to reddit as well.
pmoriarty 9y ago
"If you mean Reddit's Personals, a major difference is that the posts don't use pictures" Craigslist did not require ads to have pictures, and there were plenty of ads that didn't have them.

dahdum 9y ago

They’ve already started banning all the subs about escorts, prostitution, sugar daddies, etcetera today in response. Also subs like BeerTrade, BazaarMarkets , and other marketplaces. Say goodbye to an era. I’m sure many more will get the axe over time.

flamedoge 9y ago
decentralized network can't come soon enough. I foresee YC, Reddit, Youtube, FB, and alike get supplanted by technology that has no ownership.
- abritinthebay 9y ago
  Every single decentralized version of those sites has died a death due to a) being pretty awful b) attracting completely terrible users as it’s base c) terrible user experience. What do you see changing?
  - confounded 9y ago
    Ordinary people wanting an alternative, would, I imagine, change all three.
    - abritinthebay 9y ago
      They will want an alternative but there’s no compelling (to the average user) reason why it has to be a decentralized alternative.
  - josephagoss 9y ago
    > What do you see changing? As the internet becomes a resource that is completely boring and out of touch to 15-40 year olds people will flock to a less restrictive system. As eyeballs move over people will invest time and effort into making those systems usable. This happened with the internet and can happen again with decentralized systems.

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alexc05 9y ago

I wonder if this is why they axed all of their "firearms sales" https://www.engadget.com/2018/03/21/reddit-bans-communities-trading-firearms-and-drugs/ https://www.engadget.com/2018/03/21/reddit-bans-communities-... The social site has updated its policies to ban the trade of firearms, explosives, drugs (including alcohol and tobacco), services with "physical sexual contact," stolen goods, personal info and counterfeits. Accordingly, Reddit has shut down numerous subreddits that either directly traded in these goods or were clearly meant to enable those exchanges, including r/gunsforsale, r/stealing (yes, it existed) and r/darknetmarkets. Perhaps they were taking a broad interpretation of something in the legal language.

2aa07e2 9y ago

I can never understand how can Reddit's subs, such as girlsgonewild, not require proof that the participants are indeed adults who are not being exploited by others. On the other hand it might be better a better deal for a number of people to perform webcam "modeling" instead of being constantly exploited as a sex slave.

fokinsean 9y ago

What gun vids were removed from Youtube? I heard about this controversy yesterday, I just looked up "Glock 19 safety tips" and there were over 200,000 videos.

post_break 9y ago
They are getting scrubbed in April. https://support.google.com/youtube/answer/7667605?hl=en https://support.google.com/youtube/answer/7667605?hl=en
- cabaalis 9y ago
  That rule seems fairly narrow to me. Selling certain accessories, modifying the guns, etc. I am hoping the ones I've watched on Youtube about people firing and reviewing different guns will not be affected.