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Krita 4.0 – A painting app for cartoonists, illustrators, and concept artists
- coldcode 9y agoWhile it looks very powerful, does anyone know if the miserable light gray on medium gray UI can be changed? I despise this modern trend (Pixelmator drives me nuts too) as I have difficulty reading text with such low contrast. This is terribly unfriendly to people with vision difficulties.
- chrismorgan 9y agoYes: https://docs.krita.org/Settings_Menu#Themes https://docs.krita.org/Settings_Menu#Themes
- diggan 9y agoYeah, Krita has themes/skins, here is a few: http://www.davidrevoy.com/article124/themes-for-krita-and-kde http://www.davidrevoy.com/article124/themes-for-krita-and-kd... The top one seems darker. Otherwise you can always edit the `.colors` file of your choosing to be even darker.
- coldcode 9y agoCool thanks!
- lodyb 9y agoI believe the neutral grey helps to shift the focus away from the UI to your art piece.
- yorwba 9y agoThat kind of justification seems completely reasonable when you're looking at different screenshots to decide which UI theme looks better, but turns out to be completely counterproductive when you actually try to use the product.
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- interfixus 9y agoAs a first comment on full version bump of a truly astounding application with a clear and accessible Themes in its top-level menu, this is perhaps a tad lacking in positivity.
- guiltia 9y agoThe dark theme has nice contrast, been using that since it first came
- boudewijnrempt 9y agoThe default is white on dark gray...
- singularity2001 9y agonot running in browser? (via wasm)?
- pavlov 9y agoI think Krita is a Qt-based app. So as soon as there's a Qt port to WebAsm... That will be a while: Qt is huge and WebAsm isn't there yet for UIs.
- icebraining 9y agoProbably sooner in asm.js: http://vps2.etotheipiplusone.com:30176/redmine/projects/emscripten-qt/wiki/Demos http://vps2.etotheipiplusone.com:30176/redmine/projects/emsc... https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=11578317 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=11578317
- jcelerier 9y agothe wasm work is official and is being mainlined (https://bugreports.qt.io/browse/QTBUG-63917 https://bugreports.qt.io/browse/QTBUG-63917). I have a ~300kloc Qt app that compiles and runs with extremely few changes not related to Qt (but for now crashes after a bit of clicking).
- majewsky 9y agoNot running in the browser is a feature.
- ukaric 9y agoPretty much everyone is shoving everything into the browser that is one of the problems.
- na85 9y agoWhy would I want an extra gigabyte of memory usage for no benefit?
- guiltia 9y agoI wonder why my Krita in Windows (3.0 - 3.4, also 4.0) has some lag (around 100ms or so) when switching presets. During that, I can't even move the cursor, which is quite annoying since I use switch presets shortcut very often. I've got no problem whatsoever on Ubuntu though, aside from some random crashes when doing free transform. That being said, Krita is still my main tool for painting/drawing and some picture editing. The interface is IMHO very intuitive (or maybe just more Photoshop-like) which is nice
- ris 9y agoI'm still a bit sad they decided to de-emphasize the photo-editing-targeted features - it was (and still is) miles ahead of GIMP in terms of deep color support.
- zanny 9y agoA majority of the advances in Krita come from the crowdfunding campaigns, and those are centered around the painting part. I'm sure if there were a senior dev in the project who had the desire to improve the photo editing parts the foundation would let them crowdfund that independently of the drawing work.
- khanan 9y agoOh god, I love that russian accent in their demo-movie... I don't know why, it's just so... adorable...
- pbhjpbhj 9y agoThe linked page has a video on showing off the new features with the worst choice of music I think I've ever come across - it's like a dirge. I had to mute it; and usually I listen to anything. Imagine an old, barrel-chested, brusque Frenchman smoking galoise at a roadside café; "merde" he says under his breath ... then they used that as a sample, and inspiration, and created a piece of music from it ...
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- boudewijnrempt 9y agoWe had two videos this time! I always give people who volunteer a free hand, but I have to admit, my computers are always muted. They should be seen, not heard, so I never listened to the music myself.
- kriro 9y agoI'm not an artist. Krita, Inkscape, Gimp, Blender is a pretty great combination of tools to wiggle along as a programmer. Congrats on 4.0. Great work.
- bringtheaction 9y agoBlender and Krita are really great. Inkscape is good. I use Gimp also but not because I want to. The others I use because I want to.
- jhoechtl 9y agoIt is really a shame how far behind Gimpo has fallen. I attribute it largely to the mess the GEGL transition caused. Remember Gimp --> GTK? And Gimp is still limping on Gtk2 and blurry on each and every scaled Wayland installation.
- floatboth 9y agoYou can build the gtk3 dev branch of gimp and it does kinda work :D meanwhile Krita: "We can probably postpone worrying about Wayland on Linux for another year" https://krita.org/en/about/krita-roadmap-2017-2019/ https://krita.org/en/about/krita-roadmap-2017-2019/ >_<
- pzone 9y agoKrita puts a heroic effort into bug workarounds for faulty graphic tablet drivers. Porting to Wayland/libinput will be very much nontrivial for them. They're guaranteed to run into Qt and KDElibs bugs as well. At a minimum, they should wait until Plasma is Wayland by default. Otherwise they're just slogging into a buggy mess.
- boudewijnrempt 9y agoExactly -- I couldn't have put it better :-)
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- Hoasi 9y agoFlabbergasting. Krita's development started almost 20 years ago... and it is the first time I ever hear about it.
- boudewijnrempt 9y agoHere's a list of every release we ever made: https://krita.org/en/krita-releases-overview/ https://krita.org/en/krita-releases-overview/
- Hoasi 9y agoThanks a lot. This is great — always nice to try new tools.
- melling 9y agoIt’s often mentioned on HN. That’s how i discovered it. https://hn.algolia.com/?query=krita&sort=byPopularity&prefix&page=0&dateRange=all&type=story https://hn.algolia.com/?query=krita&sort=byPopularity&prefix... Is there a way to get weekly summary of HN for the top stories? There are probably lots of stories I miss.
- flomm 9y agoThere is Hacker Newsletter which sends a weekly summary of top stories: http://www.hackernewsletter.com/ http://www.hackernewsletter.com/
- ohtwenty 9y agoI use Materialistic[0] which besides the usual features has a "catch up" function which can be set to past 24 hrs, week, month, year. I don't use it much, but it just crashed when I did, so ymmv 0- https://f-droid.org/packages/io.github.hidroh.materialistic/ https://f-droid.org/packages/io.github.hidroh.materialistic/
- sethrin 9y agoDo you subscribe to the RSS feed?
- headsoup 9y agoI'm very much an amateur but Krita is a great piece of software for me and does everything I need so far, for free. Much easier to use than GIMP, seems quite comparable to Photoshop and the development is going strong. It's also neat that they now include by default a lot of the deevad brushes as it's a broad selection. Keep up the good work Krita team.
- antoineMoPa 9y agoI'd say krita and gimp fill different needs. Krita is for artists and Gimp is like Linux's MS paint on steroids. I frequently use Gimp to crop images, make memes, etc. When I used to draw with my wacom tablet, krita was the tool of choice.
- dorfsmay 9y agoI use "pinta" on Linux when I need an equivalent to MS paint.
- vanderZwan 9y agoBoth Pinta and Krita had really weird interactions with my touch screen the last time I tried. GIMP was the only one who worked correctly - I presume because it just treated it as a mouse (it may well be that my Linux configuration is to blame, not Pinta and Krita) Perhaps things work better now.
- tyingq 9y agoPaint.net is pretty notable too. Windows only, but free, and halfway between paint and what Adobe offers. There are many plugins that either meet or exceed what you can find for Photoshop.
- sus_007 9y agoYeah, I think Pinta could be considered as MS Paint++ for Linux.
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- wnm 9y agoBased on the app description and homepage I always thought Krita can't replace Photoshop for the few things I need to do for basic webdesign stuff. But reading the comments here made me reconsider. Has anyone used Krita for web stuff (icons, headers, banners, editing screenshots, etc? Since the developers are reading this thread: I saw that you have a simple press page [0], if you want something more detailed, I can hook you up with a free PressKitHero[1] account. [0] https://krita.org/en/about/press/ https://krita.org/en/about/press/ [1] https://presskithero.com https://presskithero.com
- zamalek 9y agoAs an intermediate-to-advanced PS user, I found that it didn't fill the void too (but this was more than a year ago). It seems more geared toward traditional media emulation. If you're looking for something designed to work like and solve the same problems as PS and Illustrator, Affinity Photo and Design by Serif are probably what you're looking for. They are around $50 each.
- boudewijnrempt 9y agoI have no idea about presskithero... But we can't just use a closed platform for our stuff. As for the first question: we, obviously, use Krita for icons, headers, banners and screenshots, but that's just because we're making Krita. It's not what Krita is made for :-) And don't even think of trying to make mockups for whole websites in Krita!
- bluGill 9y agoKrita is not targeted as a photoshop replacement. It was at one time, but 15+ years ago they realized that many people are willing to pay for photoshop and thus Adobe has a large amount of money to throw at developers (at least some of them good) and so they are unlikely to catch up. They then shifted focus to be the best programing for drawing instead, a niche that Photoshop can cover but it isn't what their customers want and so it isn't well served. Photoshop is mostly used by photographers who need to touch up a photo, this is art but a very different style of art from someone who starts with a blank page and draws a picture.
- Sevrene 9y agoI really want to love Krita, and I sort of do. The only thing preventing me from doing so is the absurd amount of crashes on my macOS machine. Is this just a Mac problem? Has this been addressed in this update? Am I doing something wrong?
- opencl 9y agoThis seems to just be a result Apple's poor OpenGL stack. Krita has been very stable on both Linux and Windows for me. From their roadmap page: "We will spend more time on macOS. Even though Apple’s support for the technologies Krita needs, like OpenGL, sucks."
- chendragon 9y agoAny hope for support of things like Metal at all maybe?
- boudewijnrempt 9y agoNo, none at all, I'm afraid. That would need a really dedicated person interested in working on both Qt and Krita. We did have a summer of code project where a student updated Qt's painting code to work with Apple's openGL implementation, though. And Krita shouldn't be more unstable on macOS than on Windows or Linux, but it doesn't get tested as well, and there are so few macOS developers who want to take a hand. Personally, I develop on Linux but use Krita on Windows, when I find time to work on my own comic. The macbook pro only gets opened to make builds or fix the occasional macOS-specific bug.
- UnhelpfulYoda 9y agoLawd Jesus! Thank you for posting on this topic... all I have to add is ditto brother. I'm just here to support and defend you from what will no doubt be a wave of "you are stupid not krita" knee jerk reactions. You ARE NOT the stupid one. The Krita UI/UX is stupid. Even the simplest of tasks becomes a complete hassle. I want to love Krita too, BELIEVE ME I WANT TO GET RID OF ADOBE, but not at the cost of adding hours to my workflow. Example: Today I wanted to delete some text on an image and add new text. This stupidity cost me an hour before I caught myself.... "NO! Just STOP, you do not have time for this shit!" ...I held my nose, opened adobe and got it done in 5 minutes. M'kay?! Enough Said, I have no time for the fools who will no doubt defend this madness.
- macawfish 9y agoFYI, the killer feature of krita 3.x was per-layer frame animation with onion skinning! I'm wondering if it works well with the new svg vector layers in this release?
- Keyframe 9y agoPeople compare Krita to Photoshop, and that's fine. There's another space where it shines and people might not know about that. It's animation. Friend and I have been working on a hand-drawn short animation (~10 minutes) for a few years now and it's just about done (final stages of sound editing). We started out in Harmony, but we were extremely disappointed with it. We tossed around the idea to switch over to TV Paint (raster based), but I thought that maybe there's an OSS something for it? Being an OSS fan and advocate, after all. If Toonz were released earlier, we might've tried that (not really, considering years of experience with it). We even considered Photoshop - it now has a nice animation workflow built-in, but I didn't want to go away from OSS until I explored all the options. So, there was Krita. Let me tell you, not only is it great, it easily cut down our animation time by a large percentage over if we were using Harmony. It's awesome tool for 2d hand-drawn animation with still A LOT of room to grow, workflow-wise. tl;dr; If you want to animate by hand, give Krita a chance. It's better than Harmony and Toonz (again, for hand-drawn animation).
- mephitix 9y agoSince you're on the subject of animation another amazing tool, specifically for pixel art, is asesprite. https://aseprite.org https://aseprite.org Among many other features it has onion skinning, play controls per layer, and looping over custom-labeled set of frames. I used it for my first game last year and it made everything so much more fun :)
- Keyframe 9y agoI'm aware of this tool, but this project isn't pixel art. Traditional animation. I've tried working in that style several times, but it's so damn consuming! Not that I won't try again.
- mephitix 9y agoIt is really time consuming. But somehow more approachable for a non-artist like myself. I've tried freehand drawing but I wasn't happy with the results... I need more knowledge and more practice.
- Findus23 9y agoIf you have not already check out David Revoy. He creates beautiful art using only open source tools: https://www.peppercarrot.com/ https://www.peppercarrot.com/
- 0xroy 9y agoThis is a much better tool for artist than GIMP thanks to one thing: Krita handles CMYK, much better for printed jobs.
- Fej 9y agoKiki is still the cutest. She's more important than she seems - branding is everything, and Krita has one of the best mascots in FOSS, a field in which aesthetics has traditionally not been a priority. How better to spread a program for artists than with a mascot that begs to be drawn?
- MayeulC 9y agoActually, for a digital painting program, I would expect it to be the case! Usually, in my experience, the mascots of FOSS software were quite criticized as having too many features to draw, etc... Not easily recognizable as logos. I have no idea whether this is valid criticism or not. But when you ask me about Krita, I think about Kiki. I can't tell what the icon looks like on the top of my head. On the plus side, some say that we are much better mentally equipped to recognize faces than abstract figures. So, maybe this was just something not fashionable in the past few years in the flat corporate/branding/design world?
- fl0wenol 9y agoHoly cow, I had no idea... she's great! That's some Miku-level stuff there (Checks Wikipedia) ahhh, it's from the same guy that did Freedom Planet, I totally see the influence. Maybe it's time to commission him for some other mascots for other projects that are sorely lacking. Inkscape, for example.
- valeg 9y agoThe best free app for a meme making. Congrats!
- buovjaga 9y agoI was happy to see Boud create this guide for non-dev contributions recently: https://phabricator.kde.org/T7842 https://phabricator.kde.org/T7842 "There are over 1000 bugs and 350 wishes reported against Krita per year, and that number is rising. The Krita developers cannot handle that stream on their own! Please consider helping out by triaging bugs. This document gives some simple guidelines to get started, and some common cases that can often be answered with a standard text."
- methodin 9y agoKrita + Gimp is a great combo - I'm extremely happy both exist in the OSS world! Hoping to use Krita more as I start getting into texturing models - it's been great so far for basic images though.
- j1elo 9y agoI recommend checking the Wikipedia's table of KDE applications; there are some gems to be discovered: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:KDE https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:KDE
- noobermin 9y agoI introduced my gf to Krita. While she generally has to use photoshop to work with others, but she loves Krita generally.
- daveheq 9y agoScary music for such a colorful video.
- andrewflnr 9y agoWait, since when does Krita support Windows? Did they finally yank all the weird KDE dependencies so I can run it in an xfce environment? That would make me so happy...
- soapdog 9y agoJust installed Krita 4.0 on my Surface 4 Pro. Like many other software ported to Windows, it can't handle hidpi screens well, all the UI becomes so tiny that the program is not really useful. Anyone has tips for running Krita on hidpi screens on Windows?
- edh649 9y agoChanging the program compatibility setting 'Override high DPI scaling behaviour' may help with this (I haven't tried with Krita yet, but I had a similar problem with Matlab & Simulink which was fixed by this)
- microtheo 9y agoSeriously? Looks reasonably sized on mine and perfectly sharp. I have Windows 1803 though...
- beepboopah 9y agoDoes this have color blind mode yet?
- microtheo 9y agoLet's not forget to thank the developer for the amazing windows port and the integration with the windows store!