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> I don't see why benevolent needs to be in quotes in your comment > most companies don't do. Because most companies are for-profit entities. Most companies d
by mbesto 9y ago
> I don't see why benevolent needs to be in quotes in your comment
> most companies don't do.
Because most companies are for-profit entities. Most companies don't do this because they aren't in this specific situation. Most gaming companies have really delicate economics (high up front capital costs, with less than guaranteed returns).
Call me cynical all you want, but the idea that video gaming companies (of all industries) are somehow out to provide benevolently for it's software developing community is laughable at best (see EA, Ubisoft, Zynga etc). The video gaming market is rife with abusing long hours out of it's employees.
- rootlocus 9y ago> see EA, Ubisoft, Zynga etc You're cherry picking a handful of awful companies for the sake of making a point about the entire industry.
- mbesto 9y agoI take it you haven't worked in the industry? There's literally an industry term for it ("crunch") because it's so bad. https://www.gamasutra.com/view/news/257143/Working_time_among_video_game_developers_Trends_over_200414.php https://www.gamasutra.com/view/news/257143/Working_time_amon... http://www.gameinformer.com/themes/blogs/generic/post.aspx?WeblogApp=features&y=2018&m=01&d=16&WeblogPostName=crunch-the-video-game-industrys-notorious-labor-problem&GroupKeys=&PostPageIndex=2 http://www.gameinformer.com/themes/blogs/generic/post.aspx?W... https://kotaku.com/crunch-time-why-game-developers-work-such-insane-hours-1704744577 https://kotaku.com/crunch-time-why-game-developers-work-such... https://venturebeat.com/2016/03/20/why-crunch-time-is-still-a-problem-in-the-video-game-industry/ https://venturebeat.com/2016/03/20/why-crunch-time-is-still-... https://www.nytimes.com/2017/10/25/opinion/work-culture-video-games-crunch.html https://www.nytimes.com/2017/10/25/opinion/work-culture-vide... https://www.gamasutra.com/blogs/PaulTozour/20150120/234443/The_Game_Outcomes_Project_Part_4_Crunch_Makes_Games_Worse.php https://www.gamasutra.com/blogs/PaulTozour/20150120/234443/T...
- kosei 9y agoAsking employees to work long hours in order to meet deadlines is not unique to the games industry.
- plussed_reader 9y agoIt's not an ask when made a condition of employment.
- always_good 9y agoYou built your own straw man. Nobody said that video gaming companies "are somehow out to provide benevolently for it's software developing community." If we were talking about Epic Games giving $100 to each American, that wouldn't follow either. But if you can't acknowledge that some decisions are more well-meaning than others, you're just sour grapes.
- corysama 9y agoIt can be both. Doing good by others does not require absolute zero benefit for yourself. The total refund is a win for Epic and it’s customers alike.