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3. it divides Asians against other people of color. So white students can be admitted at lower GPAs and SAT scores than Asian students without upsetting them.

whatshisface 9y ago
Privilege schemes set everyone against whichever groups are perceived to be getting better treatment. If you want to make a kid hated, treat him better than his friends for no reason...
- kelukelugames 9y ago
  Every group but Asians get better treatment in college admissions. Yet we, in general, ignore the group with the most admits due to privilege schemes.
  - adventured 9y ago
    You'll need to present a substantial study proving that extraordinary claim (that every other group gets better treatment in admissions across the whole of the US). The actual evidence for that across the US is practically non-existent. I'm aware of a few infamous instances of argued bias in California, which has resulted in lawsuits. Asians have the highest university attendance rate and the highest education attainment rate in the US.
    - kelukelugames 9y ago
      There are lot of data where white students are admitted with lower scores than Asians on average. Without these handicaps, Asian Americans would have even higher rates. The exact same thing happened to Jewish students a generation ago. I thought everyone knew this? "Writing in the New York Times, Harvard political theorist Yascha Mounk points out that Asian students must outperform their white peers by 140 SAT points to win admission to elite universities." [1] "Today, according to a survey by The Harvard Crimson, Asian-American freshmen had higher SAT scores than any other ethnic group. It's not enough for them to be as good as everyone else: To get in, they have to be considerably better. The problem seems to be that, in the absence of measures to limit their representation, there would just be too many Asian-Americans. So, from all outward appearances, Harvard has a quota to prevent that unwanted result." [2] There are tons of results. [3] [1]http://america.aljazeera.com/opinions/2015/10/the-asian-disadvantage.html http://america.aljazeera.com/opinions/2015/10/the-asian-disa... [2] http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/opinion/chapman/ct-asians-enrollment-harvard-colleges-perspec-0524-20150522-column.html http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/opinion/chapman/ct-asians... [3]https://www.google.com/search?q=asians+and+white+sat+scores&oq=asians+and+white+sat+scores&aqs=chrome..69i57j0.5370j0j7&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8 https://www.google.com/search?q=asians+and+white+sat+scores&...

whatshisface 9y ago

Privilege schemes set everyone against whichever groups are perceived to be getting better treatment. If you want to make a kid hated, treat him better than his friends for no reason...

kelukelugames 9y ago
Every group but Asians get better treatment in college admissions. Yet we, in general, ignore the group with the most admits due to privilege schemes.
- adventured 9y ago
  You'll need to present a substantial study proving that extraordinary claim (that every other group gets better treatment in admissions across the whole of the US). The actual evidence for that across the US is practically non-existent. I'm aware of a few infamous instances of argued bias in California, which has resulted in lawsuits. Asians have the highest university attendance rate and the highest education attainment rate in the US.
  - kelukelugames 9y ago
    There are lot of data where white students are admitted with lower scores than Asians on average. Without these handicaps, Asian Americans would have even higher rates. The exact same thing happened to Jewish students a generation ago. I thought everyone knew this? "Writing in the New York Times, Harvard political theorist Yascha Mounk points out that Asian students must outperform their white peers by 140 SAT points to win admission to elite universities." [1] "Today, according to a survey by The Harvard Crimson, Asian-American freshmen had higher SAT scores than any other ethnic group. It's not enough for them to be as good as everyone else: To get in, they have to be considerably better. The problem seems to be that, in the absence of measures to limit their representation, there would just be too many Asian-Americans. So, from all outward appearances, Harvard has a quota to prevent that unwanted result." [2] There are tons of results. [3] [1]http://america.aljazeera.com/opinions/2015/10/the-asian-disadvantage.html http://america.aljazeera.com/opinions/2015/10/the-asian-disa... [2] http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/opinion/chapman/ct-asians-enrollment-harvard-colleges-perspec-0524-20150522-column.html http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/opinion/chapman/ct-asians... [3]https://www.google.com/search?q=asians+and+white+sat+scores&oq=asians+and+white+sat+scores&aqs=chrome..69i57j0.5370j0j7&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8 https://www.google.com/search?q=asians+and+white+sat+scores&...