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I wonder how they'll interpret the law w.r.t. free zero-rating. For example, T-Mobile zero-rates Netflix for free, and shows on Netflix start to prominently use

by nikanj 9y ago

I wonder how they'll interpret the law w.r.t. free zero-rating. For example, T-Mobile zero-rates Netflix for free, and shows on Netflix start to prominently use T-Mobile products. No money changes hands. Will this be illegal in the future?

mirimir 9y ago
> ... T-Mobile zero-rates Netflix for free ... Do we know that Netflix isn't paying T-Mobile for this? Or bartering, perhaps?
- dawnerd 9y ago
  It’s not just Netflix. It’s their binge on program that zero-rates any site that adheres to their video streaming specs. I complained to them about it as I would love to have my sites included but didn’t really pursue further. If anything T-Mobile is paying Netflix since they provide free memberships to some subscribers.
  - toomuchtodo 9y ago
    Did you email the appropriate contact info on their site? I had no problem facilitating several public radio streamers to get their traffic zero rated.
    - dawnerd 9y ago
      No, they gave me a phone number and email but I just didn’t bother. Was more curious to see if a small guy could even get the info to begin with.
      - toomuchtodo 9y ago
        Happy to help if you want to try. Contact info in my profile.
jahewson 9y ago
> shows on Netflix start to prominently use T-Mobile products That’s payment in kind.
- jstanley 9y ago
  Only if it's agreed. If it just happens without any deal taking place, it's not really payment.
  - atmosx 9y ago
    You need a really good lawyer along with a very friendly judge & jury to prove that so happened two companies to facilitate each other so blatantly.
    - nikanj 9y ago
      On the other hand, you'd need a public prosecutor who's willing to go to bat against the really good lawyers of Netflix and T-Mobile, combined.
scarface74 9y ago
T-mobile zero rates any legal video streaming service that complies with its guidelines no payments required The whole argument about zero rating is that it hurts competition. But, it puts everyone on a level playing field. The service signs up with t-mobile, t-mobile limits the stream to SD and everyone wins - the customer gets unlimited video from the provider of their choice and gets cheaper data plans, t-mobile gets to manage network congestion, and the providers services are more attractive.

by nikanj 9y ago

mirimir 9y ago

> ... T-Mobile zero-rates Netflix for free ... Do we know that Netflix isn't paying T-Mobile for this? Or bartering, perhaps?

dawnerd 9y ago
It’s not just Netflix. It’s their binge on program that zero-rates any site that adheres to their video streaming specs. I complained to them about it as I would love to have my sites included but didn’t really pursue further. If anything T-Mobile is paying Netflix since they provide free memberships to some subscribers.
- toomuchtodo 9y ago
  Did you email the appropriate contact info on their site? I had no problem facilitating several public radio streamers to get their traffic zero rated.
  - dawnerd 9y ago
    No, they gave me a phone number and email but I just didn’t bother. Was more curious to see if a small guy could even get the info to begin with.
    - toomuchtodo 9y ago
      Happy to help if you want to try. Contact info in my profile.

jahewson 9y ago

> shows on Netflix start to prominently use T-Mobile products That’s payment in kind.

jstanley 9y ago
Only if it's agreed. If it just happens without any deal taking place, it's not really payment.
- atmosx 9y ago
  You need a really good lawyer along with a very friendly judge & jury to prove that so happened two companies to facilitate each other so blatantly.
  - nikanj 9y ago
    On the other hand, you'd need a public prosecutor who's willing to go to bat against the really good lawyers of Netflix and T-Mobile, combined.

scarface74 9y ago

T-mobile zero rates any legal video streaming service that complies with its guidelines no payments required The whole argument about zero rating is that it hurts competition. But, it puts everyone on a level playing field. The service signs up with t-mobile, t-mobile limits the stream to SD and everyone wins - the customer gets unlimited video from the provider of their choice and gets cheaper data plans, t-mobile gets to manage network congestion, and the providers services are more attractive.