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I believe to know, what might make me live longer, my body often tells me: sleep more, eat less, avoid too much meat, fat and sugar, don’t drink etc. Many time

by baxtr 9y ago

I believe to know, what might make me live longer, my body often tells me: sleep more, eat less, avoid too much meat, fat and sugar, don’t drink etc. Many times, I catch myself thinking though: do I really wanna miss out on a great moment/feeling just to live a couple of years longer with a broken body and/or mind? I can enjoy now. Who knows if I can then.

p1esk 9y ago
The point of all those things you mentioned is not to live longer, but to feel better today. You might enjoy a sugar rush for 20 minutes, and then crash hard and feel tired and slightly depressed for 2 hours. Is it worth it?
- kristofferR 9y ago
  That kind of reaction to sugar sounds more like a nocebo reaction because you're overly afraid of sugar than actual effects of the sugar.
srtjstjsj 9y ago
> to live a couple of years longer with a broken body and/or mind? You don't live a couple of years longer with a broken body/mind. You live a couple years longer before your body/mind breaks down.
Y7ZCQtNo39 9y ago
Males in the USA have an 81% chance of living to age 65 [1]. I think it makes sense to take care of yourself. Of course, allow yourself the occasional indulgence. Your habits of your 20s and 30s could significantly impact your 40s and 50s. Taking care of yourself means enjoying more great moments later on too. Also, taking care of yourself can be in itself enjoyable. Pick up a sport, or if you're not competitive, make going to the gym a social thing. And eating healthy can certainly be tasty. [1]: https://data.worldbank.org/indicator/SP.DYN.TO65.MA.ZS?locations=US&view=chart https://data.worldbank.org/indicator/SP.DYN.TO65.MA.ZS?locat...
- StavrosK 9y ago
  Goddamn, only 81% to just 65? We're doomed.
- shrimp_emoji 9y ago
  >Pick up a sport, or if you're not competitive, make going to the gym a social thing. Gross. Just run or, preferably, swim for 40 minutes to some hardcore music[0]. Let the endorphin high melt the pain and carry you through! >And eating healthy can certainly be tasty. It can be tasty when you consider fruit. When you consider everything else, it's misery. We evolved to crave sugar and fat. Gg But you have to deprecate mouth pleasure for a more durable basis of well-being, which is being healthier, and well-being is important because you want to live for as long as possible so you can someday witness the year of the Linux desktop! [0]: https://youtu.be/Ihi_kJJj_8A https://youtu.be/Ihi_kJJj_8A
  - majewsky 9y ago
    > When you consider everything else, it's misery. You're really missing out there. A friend of mine has given up meat for lent, and we're now trying a bunch of vegetarian recipes. It fits quite well because I've recently started looking into Indian cooking where you can do a lot without meat. The only problem is that I absolutely despise all the stuff around cooking (searching for recipes, shopping for ingredients, doing the dishes, people that insist that cooking is super-easy and judge you for not doing it more often).
  - kimikimi 9y ago
    Visit Japan sometime. The packaged food is good and not heavily weighted towards the "sugar-cream" U.S. norms. Salty and umami flavors are preferred instead and you can pick up a decent example of it from any konbini, everywhere you go. As the article says about aging, it's a collective problem. We are systematically encouraging ourselves at a large scale to consume take-out pizza and Coke.
  - seba_dos1 9y ago
    > It can be tasty when you consider fruit. When you consider everything else, it's misery. I used to think that, but now I'm living with a hard-vegetarian/soft-vegan and I've discovered that it's not exactly true, even though my tastes didn't really change and I still dislike most of the vegetables.
agumonkey 9y ago
Short term thinking is one way, rarely the best, at least if done regularly. You'd be dead long if nature didn't accumulate a set of non long term mechanisms and learning schemes.
- baxtr 9y ago
  I couldn’t agree more. Long term thinking is exactly what I do
  - agumonkey 9y ago
    Oh, I interpreted your comment half backward. To add to the discussion, it takes time or innate brain sensitivity to actually seek regularity and long term process. It's so so so easy to use the brain area dealing with rapid satisfaction..
    - baxtr 9y ago
      I do agree again. It’s easier and it compensates for other things, e.g. a stressful day at work. I do admit, though, that I am trying to restrain myself. Eg I don't buy any sweet, if you don’t have them at home you can’t be tempted. I am trying to do intermittent fasting from time to time. Alas, I’m not perfect and indulge more often than restrain.

by baxtr 9y ago

p1esk 9y ago

The point of all those things you mentioned is not to live longer, but to feel better today. You might enjoy a sugar rush for 20 minutes, and then crash hard and feel tired and slightly depressed for 2 hours. Is it worth it?

kristofferR 9y ago
That kind of reaction to sugar sounds more like a nocebo reaction because you're overly afraid of sugar than actual effects of the sugar.

srtjstjsj 9y ago

> to live a couple of years longer with a broken body and/or mind? You don't live a couple of years longer with a broken body/mind. You live a couple years longer before your body/mind breaks down.

Y7ZCQtNo39 9y ago

Males in the USA have an 81% chance of living to age 65 [1]. I think it makes sense to take care of yourself. Of course, allow yourself the occasional indulgence. Your habits of your 20s and 30s could significantly impact your 40s and 50s. Taking care of yourself means enjoying more great moments later on too. Also, taking care of yourself can be in itself enjoyable. Pick up a sport, or if you're not competitive, make going to the gym a social thing. And eating healthy can certainly be tasty. [1]: https://data.worldbank.org/indicator/SP.DYN.TO65.MA.ZS?locations=US&view=chart https://data.worldbank.org/indicator/SP.DYN.TO65.MA.ZS?locat...

StavrosK 9y ago
Goddamn, only 81% to just 65? We're doomed.
shrimp_emoji 9y ago
>Pick up a sport, or if you're not competitive, make going to the gym a social thing. Gross. Just run or, preferably, swim for 40 minutes to some hardcore music[0]. Let the endorphin high melt the pain and carry you through! >And eating healthy can certainly be tasty. It can be tasty when you consider fruit. When you consider everything else, it's misery. We evolved to crave sugar and fat. Gg But you have to deprecate mouth pleasure for a more durable basis of well-being, which is being healthier, and well-being is important because you want to live for as long as possible so you can someday witness the year of the Linux desktop! [0]: https://youtu.be/Ihi_kJJj_8A https://youtu.be/Ihi_kJJj_8A
- majewsky 9y ago
  > When you consider everything else, it's misery. You're really missing out there. A friend of mine has given up meat for lent, and we're now trying a bunch of vegetarian recipes. It fits quite well because I've recently started looking into Indian cooking where you can do a lot without meat. The only problem is that I absolutely despise all the stuff around cooking (searching for recipes, shopping for ingredients, doing the dishes, people that insist that cooking is super-easy and judge you for not doing it more often).
- kimikimi 9y ago
  Visit Japan sometime. The packaged food is good and not heavily weighted towards the "sugar-cream" U.S. norms. Salty and umami flavors are preferred instead and you can pick up a decent example of it from any konbini, everywhere you go. As the article says about aging, it's a collective problem. We are systematically encouraging ourselves at a large scale to consume take-out pizza and Coke.
- seba_dos1 9y ago
  > It can be tasty when you consider fruit. When you consider everything else, it's misery. I used to think that, but now I'm living with a hard-vegetarian/soft-vegan and I've discovered that it's not exactly true, even though my tastes didn't really change and I still dislike most of the vegetables.

agumonkey 9y ago

Short term thinking is one way, rarely the best, at least if done regularly. You'd be dead long if nature didn't accumulate a set of non long term mechanisms and learning schemes.

baxtr 9y ago
I couldn’t agree more. Long term thinking is exactly what I do
- agumonkey 9y ago
  Oh, I interpreted your comment half backward. To add to the discussion, it takes time or innate brain sensitivity to actually seek regularity and long term process. It's so so so easy to use the brain area dealing with rapid satisfaction..
  - baxtr 9y ago
    I do agree again. It’s easier and it compensates for other things, e.g. a stressful day at work. I do admit, though, that I am trying to restrain myself. Eg I don't buy any sweet, if you don’t have them at home you can’t be tempted. I am trying to do intermittent fasting from time to time. Alas, I’m not perfect and indulge more often than restrain.