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Did it put you off using openssh/openvpn/libressl/etc? Is there the Torvalds effect? Let maintainers express their discontent in the form they prefer. I see ho
by nirv 9y ago
Did it put you off using openssh/openvpn/libressl/etc? Is there the Torvalds effect? Let maintainers express their discontent in the form they prefer.
I see how @zx2c4 might be concerned about possible reputation risks due to the release of this closed-source implementation at the earliest WireGuard stage. Given that the author of TunSafe is not a security expert. Especially if (suddenly) TunSafe turns out to have security flaws, right before the WireGuard team releases an official open-sourced implementation. However, WG is an open protocol, and @ludde has the right to develop and sell whatever he wants on its basis.
- namelost 9y agoI'd say the author comes across as immature, which is kind of a bad look if you are making security software.
- lvh 9y agoHow, specifically? Are they immature for suggesting against using a closed-source implementation of the WireGuard protocol? Is your concern their tone about said implementation?
- ascorbic 9y agoIt didn't stop me using them, but it certainly is off-putting. It's not a black and white issue though. The value I get from Linux easily outweighs any issues from Linus being a bit of a knob. I'm also unlikely to have to deal with Linus as a user. WireGuard, on the other hand, is a small project where the maintainer jumps in to discussions on HN. If that's how he behaves here, I'd rather not have to deal with that if I have a support question.
- e12e 9y agoMight be more appropriate to compare with "ssh" and a Tatu Ylönen-effect in the case of ssh. Although openssh certainly became a significant fork.