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We have potholes in Florida. No freezing.

cmontella 9y ago
But we don't really have potholes in CA, at least not the quantity and quality that I experienced living in PA. It's a minefield there right now, so I would imagine freezing is part of the problem, or at least exacerbates it.
- mgberlin 9y ago
  I live in Santa Cruz CA and and deal with terribly potholed roads. The air temperature here rarely gets below freezing, and I've never seen any ice on the roads to indicate that the ground temperature has been below freezing. Clearly something besides the freeze/thaw cycle is causing potholes.
- tigershark 9y ago
  What? I never seen worse road in my life than in LA..
  - wlll 9y ago
    Is that because in LA you have time to scrutinise in depth a great deal of tarmac? ;)
- haldean 9y ago
  You must have never taken a bike down Market Street :)
denimnerd 9y ago
rain will do the same thing though.
woliveirajr 9y ago
Put water inside the hole, run over it with a car that will put some pressure on it, and it'll fill all those small cracks inside the asphalt. Repeat many times. Also, asphalt isn't solid, it get thinner when the sun is high, deforming every time a car runs over it in the summer. South of south America, more or less equivalent to Florida: no freezing during winter and not that hot during summer, but everytime there's many rainy days, holes will appear. Get few days of hot sun and the roads will deform a bit, specially where trucks and buses run over.
- tarmon 9y ago
  Just want to point out that it's asphalt, not asfalt. :)
  - MisterTea 9y ago
    No, it's ashfault. Though, I don't know what he did exactly.
- yousir 9y ago
  > South of south America, more or less equivalent to Florida Are you calling North America "America", and then go on and call Florida "south America", as if there isn't such a place in the world as South America? I do not approve of this North America-centric view of the world at all.
  - mc32 9y ago
    Southern would work better than south. Proper place names which have cardinal pints in their names typically will use South and not Southern. So we have South Africa, South Australia, South Dakota. But southern California, southern South Dakota, etc.
  - mitchty 9y ago
    America refers to The United States of America. Same as we don't refer to Mexico all the time as Estados Unidos Mexicanos. I don't approve of getting upset over turns of phrase online. Principle of charity.
    - yousir 9y ago
      >America refers to The United States of America. Well, that might be true for people living in the US but, and I might be going out on a limb here, it might not be so true for others.
      - mitchty 9y ago
        > Well, that might be true for people living in the US but, and I might be going out on a limb here, it might not be so true for others. And for a comment referencing Florida, is it charitable to apply something for continents to your stated interpretation? Principle of charity says not. Specifically who refers to America/Americans in English as meaning "People who live on the continents in North and South America"? Lets hear names not an allusion to "others". I'm only aware of a rather vocal minority of South American students recently getting angry at the term America being attributed to citizens of the USA. But its really no different from my aforementioned Mexico example in Spanish. Their category error is trying to redefine America from its shorteneed form for USA, to some super continent association of "America". But it goes against a lot of existing usage in not only English, but other languages. [1] I respect that you have a position here, but frankly its a silly way to try to redefine the word America as its been spoken in English for a long time to refer to a super continent of both North and South America. Example Portuguese, America refers to the USA, and to both Continents, aka like in English have to figure out the context: http://www.wordreference.com/enpt/america http://www.wordreference.com/enpt/america French, pretty much the same, only the continent is generally called out separately as continent américain: http://www.wordreference.com/enfr/america http://www.wordreference.com/enfr/america German, closer to French/English here but separate in that they tend to refer to the "americas" as north middle and south america, which is in many ways more appropo: https://dict.leo.org/englisch-deutsch/america https://dict.leo.org/englisch-deutsch/america Japanese, i'm not as qualified with my 3 months of learning japanese to comment on this but given the Kanji in use they're already separated: https://jisho.org/search/america https://jisho.org/search/america Etc... Also are you saying that all of the societies and engineering societies such as The American Society of Engineers should be required to change their name as they don't allow people from Canada, Central America, and South America to join? At a certain point I just can't find this position on the word America to make sense. Its just a weird thing to die by the sword on.

But we don't really have potholes in CA, at least not the quantity and quality that I experienced living in PA. It's a minefield there right now, so I would imagine freezing is part of the problem, or at least exacerbates it.

mgberlin 9y ago
I live in Santa Cruz CA and and deal with terribly potholed roads. The air temperature here rarely gets below freezing, and I've never seen any ice on the roads to indicate that the ground temperature has been below freezing. Clearly something besides the freeze/thaw cycle is causing potholes.
tigershark 9y ago
What? I never seen worse road in my life than in LA..
- wlll 9y ago
  Is that because in LA you have time to scrutinise in depth a great deal of tarmac? ;)
haldean 9y ago
You must have never taken a bike down Market Street :)

denimnerd 9y ago

rain will do the same thing though.

woliveirajr 9y ago

Put water inside the hole, run over it with a car that will put some pressure on it, and it'll fill all those small cracks inside the asphalt. Repeat many times. Also, asphalt isn't solid, it get thinner when the sun is high, deforming every time a car runs over it in the summer. South of south America, more or less equivalent to Florida: no freezing during winter and not that hot during summer, but everytime there's many rainy days, holes will appear. Get few days of hot sun and the roads will deform a bit, specially where trucks and buses run over.

tarmon 9y ago
Just want to point out that it's asphalt, not asfalt. :)
- MisterTea 9y ago
  No, it's ashfault. Though, I don't know what he did exactly.
yousir 9y ago
> South of south America, more or less equivalent to Florida Are you calling North America "America", and then go on and call Florida "south America", as if there isn't such a place in the world as South America? I do not approve of this North America-centric view of the world at all.
- mc32 9y ago
  Southern would work better than south. Proper place names which have cardinal pints in their names typically will use South and not Southern. So we have South Africa, South Australia, South Dakota. But southern California, southern South Dakota, etc.
- mitchty 9y ago
  America refers to The United States of America. Same as we don't refer to Mexico all the time as Estados Unidos Mexicanos. I don't approve of getting upset over turns of phrase online. Principle of charity.
  - yousir 9y ago
    >America refers to The United States of America. Well, that might be true for people living in the US but, and I might be going out on a limb here, it might not be so true for others.
    - mitchty 9y ago
      > Well, that might be true for people living in the US but, and I might be going out on a limb here, it might not be so true for others. And for a comment referencing Florida, is it charitable to apply something for continents to your stated interpretation? Principle of charity says not. Specifically who refers to America/Americans in English as meaning "People who live on the continents in North and South America"? Lets hear names not an allusion to "others". I'm only aware of a rather vocal minority of South American students recently getting angry at the term America being attributed to citizens of the USA. But its really no different from my aforementioned Mexico example in Spanish. Their category error is trying to redefine America from its shorteneed form for USA, to some super continent association of "America". But it goes against a lot of existing usage in not only English, but other languages. [1] I respect that you have a position here, but frankly its a silly way to try to redefine the word America as its been spoken in English for a long time to refer to a super continent of both North and South America. Example Portuguese, America refers to the USA, and to both Continents, aka like in English have to figure out the context: http://www.wordreference.com/enpt/america http://www.wordreference.com/enpt/america French, pretty much the same, only the continent is generally called out separately as continent américain: http://www.wordreference.com/enfr/america http://www.wordreference.com/enfr/america German, closer to French/English here but separate in that they tend to refer to the "americas" as north middle and south america, which is in many ways more appropo: https://dict.leo.org/englisch-deutsch/america https://dict.leo.org/englisch-deutsch/america Japanese, i'm not as qualified with my 3 months of learning japanese to comment on this but given the Kanji in use they're already separated: https://jisho.org/search/america https://jisho.org/search/america Etc... Also are you saying that all of the societies and engineering societies such as The American Society of Engineers should be required to change their name as they don't allow people from Canada, Central America, and South America to join? At a certain point I just can't find this position on the word America to make sense. Its just a weird thing to die by the sword on.