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One can argue the quality of physical manufacturing process has a larger impact to the long term reliability and core functionality of a car than say... fonts i

One can argue the quality of physical manufacturing process has a larger impact to the long term reliability and core functionality of a car than say... fonts in the infotainment system. But maybe that's just crazy talk.

brownbat 9y ago
I'd be on board with you if we were talking about cars falling apart or actual maintenance. UX in radio receivers drive me crazy every day. Slightly non-symmetrical gaps in hardware I don't look at? Not really ever. And you'd think the latter would tell you something about maintenance costs. Maybe it does in aggregate? But I've had expensive lemons and beaters that withstood anything, and vice versa, it just really depends.
robbyt 9y ago
You're right, to a degree. The benefit of electric cars is they're mechanically simpler, and so these tolerances do not matter quite as much for long-term reliability.
- Cookingboy 9y ago
  EVs are only simpler when it comes to drive train. When it comes to body fit/finish this is the reason early Tesla Model S had issues with door handles being stuck and leaky moon roofs. I don't know about you, but if my $100k car is literally leaking water during a rainstorm, I'd call it a reliability issue.
- nradov 9y ago
  If electric vehicles are so much simpler then why does Tesla have relatively poor drivetrain reliability ratings compared to gasoline vehicles? By contrast the Toyota Prius is mechanically extremely complex, yet it's one of the most reliable and durable vehicles on the road.
jf325oweijw 9y ago
The 1989 Civic I once owned had obvious "inconsistent line gaps". It was still running fine @ ~280k miles when I gifted it to a cousin. Finally went to the junkyard just shy of ~400k miles Lines not lining up is bizarre fetishizing of tools, IMO. Gets one from Point_A to Point_B. But I get it, the world must be overly customized for an intolerant minority: https://medium.com/incerto/the-most-intolerant-wins-the-dictatorship-of-the-small-minority-3f1f83ce4e15 https://medium.com/incerto/the-most-intolerant-wins-the-dict...

brownbat 9y ago

I'd be on board with you if we were talking about cars falling apart or actual maintenance. UX in radio receivers drive me crazy every day. Slightly non-symmetrical gaps in hardware I don't look at? Not really ever. And you'd think the latter would tell you something about maintenance costs. Maybe it does in aggregate? But I've had expensive lemons and beaters that withstood anything, and vice versa, it just really depends.

robbyt 9y ago

You're right, to a degree. The benefit of electric cars is they're mechanically simpler, and so these tolerances do not matter quite as much for long-term reliability.

Cookingboy 9y ago
EVs are only simpler when it comes to drive train. When it comes to body fit/finish this is the reason early Tesla Model S had issues with door handles being stuck and leaky moon roofs. I don't know about you, but if my $100k car is literally leaking water during a rainstorm, I'd call it a reliability issue.
nradov 9y ago
If electric vehicles are so much simpler then why does Tesla have relatively poor drivetrain reliability ratings compared to gasoline vehicles? By contrast the Toyota Prius is mechanically extremely complex, yet it's one of the most reliable and durable vehicles on the road.

jf325oweijw 9y ago

The 1989 Civic I once owned had obvious "inconsistent line gaps". It was still running fine @ ~280k miles when I gifted it to a cousin. Finally went to the junkyard just shy of ~400k miles Lines not lining up is bizarre fetishizing of tools, IMO. Gets one from Point_A to Point_B. But I get it, the world must be overly customized for an intolerant minority: https://medium.com/incerto/the-most-intolerant-wins-the-dictatorship-of-the-small-minority-3f1f83ce4e15 https://medium.com/incerto/the-most-intolerant-wins-the-dict...