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Hi, author here! Thanks for the correction on this -- I'll update the article with correct info. I'm not a Prime subscriber and the information on Prime benefi

by Mr_Ed 9y ago

Hi, author here! Thanks for the correction on this -- I'll update the article with correct info. I'm not a Prime subscriber and the information on Prime benefits are completely intransparent. And if I can't easily figure that out, it's unlikely that average consumer Joe will. The perceived value of each offering is the point here.

GarrisonPrime 9y ago
>The perceived value of each offering is the point here. Ah yes. The creed of American media: The truth doesn't matter. All that matters is what the masses can be convinced to believe.
- ealexhudson 9y ago
  His point stands: irrespective of what the "facts" are here, if shoppers are doing an apples-to-oranges comparison and picking Amazon, then that's a problem for Spotify.
- bogomipz 9y ago
  >"Ah yes. The creed of American media ..." This statement regarding "perceived value" has nothing to do with "American media", "fake news" truth distorting or even politics. It's baffling that you have chosen to stake such claims on the author. Perceived value pricing is actually a marketing strategy. Its used in factoring pricing for everything from gym memberships, to luxury good and delivery services. see: https://www.investopedia.com/terms/p/perceived-value.asp https://www.investopedia.com/terms/p/perceived-value.asp
pc86 9y ago
> intransparent They're probably opaque, as well.
matwood 9y ago
Cost opaqueness is Amazon's MO around services. AWS is a huge offender.
- joncrane 9y ago
  I've found it relatively easy to price out AWS projects, especially using their Cost Calculator: https://calculator.s3.amazonaws.com/index.html https://calculator.s3.amazonaws.com/index.html Between that and https://ec2instances.info/ https://ec2instances.info/, I can figure out the vast majority of what I need to know about costs on AWS. What are the gaps that you see?
  - toomuchtodo 9y ago
    Tell me what your ALB costs are going to be next month. “You are charged for each hour or partial hour that an Application Load Balancer is running and the number of Load Balancer Capacity Units (LCU) used per hour.” Go here and see how “LCUs” are computed: https://aws.amazon.com/elasticloadbalancing/pricing/ https://aws.amazon.com/elasticloadbalancing/pricing/
  - nemothekid 9y ago
    If you spin up almost anything on GCP, you can see the monthly cost right there, with all the options you have selected. A rather obvious gap is this one - How much will an i3.xlarge with an extra 2TiB of storage cost you per month on AWS?
  - sushisource 9y ago
    If they were genuinely interested in making it easy you'd see pricing information every time you're spinning up a new EC2 instance / whatever other service, right there, without needing to go pull up the cost calculator. Have an instant "estimate my current bill" button, etc, etc.
    - arbie 9y ago
      To be fair, Azure is no less opaque.

by Mr_Ed 9y ago

GarrisonPrime 9y ago

>The perceived value of each offering is the point here. Ah yes. The creed of American media: The truth doesn't matter. All that matters is what the masses can be convinced to believe.

ealexhudson 9y ago
His point stands: irrespective of what the "facts" are here, if shoppers are doing an apples-to-oranges comparison and picking Amazon, then that's a problem for Spotify.
bogomipz 9y ago
>"Ah yes. The creed of American media ..." This statement regarding "perceived value" has nothing to do with "American media", "fake news" truth distorting or even politics. It's baffling that you have chosen to stake such claims on the author. Perceived value pricing is actually a marketing strategy. Its used in factoring pricing for everything from gym memberships, to luxury good and delivery services. see: https://www.investopedia.com/terms/p/perceived-value.asp https://www.investopedia.com/terms/p/perceived-value.asp

pc86 9y ago

> intransparent They're probably opaque, as well.

matwood 9y ago

Cost opaqueness is Amazon's MO around services. AWS is a huge offender.

joncrane 9y ago
I've found it relatively easy to price out AWS projects, especially using their Cost Calculator: https://calculator.s3.amazonaws.com/index.html https://calculator.s3.amazonaws.com/index.html Between that and https://ec2instances.info/ https://ec2instances.info/, I can figure out the vast majority of what I need to know about costs on AWS. What are the gaps that you see?
- toomuchtodo 9y ago
  Tell me what your ALB costs are going to be next month. “You are charged for each hour or partial hour that an Application Load Balancer is running and the number of Load Balancer Capacity Units (LCU) used per hour.” Go here and see how “LCUs” are computed: https://aws.amazon.com/elasticloadbalancing/pricing/ https://aws.amazon.com/elasticloadbalancing/pricing/
- nemothekid 9y ago
  If you spin up almost anything on GCP, you can see the monthly cost right there, with all the options you have selected. A rather obvious gap is this one - How much will an i3.xlarge with an extra 2TiB of storage cost you per month on AWS?
- sushisource 9y ago
  If they were genuinely interested in making it easy you'd see pricing information every time you're spinning up a new EC2 instance / whatever other service, right there, without needing to go pull up the cost calculator. Have an instant "estimate my current bill" button, etc, etc.
  - arbie 9y ago
    To be fair, Azure is no less opaque.