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by m_ke 9y ago

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adventured 9y ago
The figures in the article, representing the drop, are 27% above 2012 levels. For science & engineering the student numbers are 46% higher than 2012. So much for that premise. The decline shown is between 2016 and 2017. Trump wasn't President. Any decisions to attend in the US would have been considered well before it was even clear he would have a serious chance of winning. There are two likely reasons for that dip. First, the cost of university education in the US is quite high. Second and in tandem with the first issue, countries like China that formerly would have sent a lot of students to the US, increasingly have the education systems and infrastructure - along with the post education opportunities - in place to retain their own talent pools.
- dragonwriter 9y ago
  > The decline shown is between 2016 and 2017. Trump wasn't President. Trump was, in fact, President well before the 16 April — 15 November period covered for the 2017 data. > Any decisions to attend in the US would have been considered well before it was even clear he would have a serious chance of winning. But would have had ample time to be reconsidered after he won, and even after the initial implementation of the travel ban. > There are two likely reasons for that dip. First, the cost of university education in the US is quite high That was true I've the 2012–2016 period of increase, too, it didn't change between 2016 and 2017. > Second and in tandem with the first issue, countries like China that formerly would have sent a lot of students to the US, increasingly have the education systems and infrastructure - along with the post education opportunities - in place to retain their own talent pools. That also didn't dramatically change between 2016 and 2017. What did dramatically change between 2016 and 2017 was the visible attitude of the U.S. public and government to foreigners.

by m_ke 9y ago

https://www.geekwire.com/2018/fewer-international-grad-students-seeking-computer-science-degrees-u-s-first-time-years/ https://www.geekwire.com/2018/fewer-international-grad-stude...

adventured 9y ago

The figures in the article, representing the drop, are 27% above 2012 levels. For science & engineering the student numbers are 46% higher than 2012. So much for that premise. The decline shown is between 2016 and 2017. Trump wasn't President. Any decisions to attend in the US would have been considered well before it was even clear he would have a serious chance of winning. There are two likely reasons for that dip. First, the cost of university education in the US is quite high. Second and in tandem with the first issue, countries like China that formerly would have sent a lot of students to the US, increasingly have the education systems and infrastructure - along with the post education opportunities - in place to retain their own talent pools.

dragonwriter 9y ago
> The decline shown is between 2016 and 2017. Trump wasn't President. Trump was, in fact, President well before the 16 April — 15 November period covered for the 2017 data. > Any decisions to attend in the US would have been considered well before it was even clear he would have a serious chance of winning. But would have had ample time to be reconsidered after he won, and even after the initial implementation of the travel ban. > There are two likely reasons for that dip. First, the cost of university education in the US is quite high That was true I've the 2012–2016 period of increase, too, it didn't change between 2016 and 2017. > Second and in tandem with the first issue, countries like China that formerly would have sent a lot of students to the US, increasingly have the education systems and infrastructure - along with the post education opportunities - in place to retain their own talent pools. That also didn't dramatically change between 2016 and 2017. What did dramatically change between 2016 and 2017 was the visible attitude of the U.S. public and government to foreigners.