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What nonsense. Sure, the valley can teach you some new JavaScript frameworks and how to best invade your users privacy to sell ads, but real programming happen
by freejulian 9y ago
What nonsense. Sure, the valley can teach you some new JavaScript frameworks and how to best invade your users privacy to sell ads, but real programming happens everywhere. There’s plenty of ways to launch your career without working for Zuckerberg or Bezos.
- stagbeetle 9y agoI ask for one (1) example, that does not include any software hubs that mimic the valley (this includes Austin, New York, Boston, and Seattle, but is not limited to), that has an equal, or close to equal, impact on your career in comparison to the Bay Area. The only thing the valley has going for it is the saturation of talent and people who hire talent. The bad, is that without it it's got nothing to really show for itself (save a few niche items). The good, is the lack of any other notable qualities is overshadowed by the overcompensation of the only ones it has.
- freejulian 9y agoCitadel, located in Chicago. You guys out west are so smug it’s unbelievable.
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- stagbeetle 9y agoThe topic was tech careers. I don't believe Citadel does any algo/prop work that could fall under the umbrella of tech. Off-topic: I'm from the East and #FreeMadix
- freejulian 9y agoYou’re just in denial now, you’ve clearly had plenty of the Valley’s koolaid. It’s hilarious that you don’t think the worlds largest market maker isn’t doing “algo/prop work that could fall under the umbrella of tech.” Don’t be afraid to leave your bubble.
- stagbeetle 9y agoWhat a twist of fate. I find myself holding your exact same thoughts, but yet I try to mimic the community and "fit in." All I'm saying is that Citadel is no Rennaisance. It's not LTCM or Medallion. Maybe it's like Boston, but sure it ain't as beneficial as the valley. If there were spoiler tags, I would tell you what I really think, but I don't want to be a Pats fan at a Steelers game.
- freejulian 9y agoI mean, Citadel is far more secretive than any of the companies in the valley. Just because you don't see the innovation doesn't mean it isn't happening. Citadel pays salaries on par with the valley and is widely respected in the hft space -- it's a very good place to start a tech career.
- stagbeetle 9y agoThen the next question is, how are you supposed to start your career if you don't know about it? I half kid, but it's neat to hear. I haven't been a part of the buyside for a while, so it's more than likely Citadel's gotten some internal clout in the quant scene since them.
- dokem 9y agoI never said SF was the only way to launch a career and tend to agree with you. Still, there is no denying the power of having a big name on your resume when looking for the next job.
- atomical 9y agoEh, I don't think it is required. Probably better to work on being likable so people think you're more than just a skillset in the interview.
- freejulian 9y agoI don’t know about you, but when I review resumes I look at what they’ve done, not what brand names I recognize. Frankly, when I see a name from the Valley such as Facebook, I assume it’s a script kiddie web developer who’s primary experience revolves around NodeJS.