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It is so hard to see that people who are dependent on social assistance will vote for nothing but more social assistance, dragging whole society into the hole?
by anovikov 9y ago
It is so hard to see that people who are dependent on social assistance will vote for nothing but more social assistance, dragging whole society into the hole?
To me, Chinese model sounds optimal: make strict, public, rarely changing rules of who can get suffrage, which may be a combination of education, income, wealth, and some other (say criminal record) requirements, in part replaceable by one another. 6% of adult population being voters, like in China, is quite enough. People who are funding the government (bulk of taxes are paid by a few percent of people), people who are moving the society forward, should vote - average people who don't have either capacity, or need to see the big picture and who are totally dependent on institutions they don't even understand, on their well-being, are at best a clutter, at worst a tool in the hands of enemies.
- aaronbrethorst 9y agoChina is a kleptocracy. https://www.theguardian.com/world/2012/oct/26/wen-jiabao-wealth-new-york-times https://www.theguardian.com/world/2012/oct/26/wen-jiabao-wea...
- justinzollars 9y agoChina slipped from Autocracy to Dictatorship last weekend: https://www.economist.com/news/leaders/21737517-it-bet-china-would-head-towards-democracy-and-market-economy-gamble-has-failed-how https://www.economist.com/news/leaders/21737517-it-bet-china...
- aaronbrethorst 9y agoWe should be careful, or the United States will too. https://twitter.com/brianstelter/status/970090357441613824 https://twitter.com/brianstelter/status/970090357441613824
- igravious 9y agoWow, could people who are flagging and deading @anovikov's posts please stop. You may _disagree_ with what they have to say but they are not being impolite or abusive. I get that their position is extremely illeberal in these times but that is no grounds whatsoever to pile on and and flag and downvote. Doing so means it is hard to reply to them. If you disagree, reply, and give your reasons. Reserve downvoting and flagging for Reddit type meme humour, abusive comments, comments which spread fake news or conspiracies, pointless humour, off-topic comments, those sorts of things. Just because you disagree with someone is no grounds to downvote them. Think about what that means, please. Let's keep the level of discourse on HN elevated. Thank you. @dang or another moderator: would it be possible to unflag anovikov's posts here to allow discourse to happen or is that sort of thing not done?
- johnchristopher 9y agoI am slightly concerned HN seem to just downvote anovikov instead of bringing back the counter-arguments that were made centuries ago when democracy and universal suffrage was being fought for.