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There's a bunch: https://screenrant.com/movies-changed-for-china/ https://screenrant.com/movies-changed-for-china/

by sehugg 9y ago

megaman22 9y ago
The one that really sticks out is the recent Red Dawn remake. I mean, really, North Korea is going to invade the pacific coast? It was clearly written about Communist China, that's the only way the movie could have made the slightest bit of sense, but they kowtowed and turned it into a dumpster fire, and they still didn't procure release rights there.
- blackrock 9y ago
  True, they requested that Red Dawn be re-edited, so that China was not the bad guy. I have not seen the movie, nor do I care to. However, let's think about this situation for a moment, as rational adults. And if you can, then try to think about this from the other side. There is a lot of bad blood coming out of American media about China. It's in the news, the movies, the TV shows, the literature, it's everywhere. Unless you are dense, then I think this can be established as a fact. China is continually being painted as the big bad scary commie, that's out to eat your children (or something like that), or at least, they're taking your iPhone assembling slavery jobs. A movie like this, would add more fuel to the fire. You, as an intelligent individual may be able to distinguish that Red Dawn is a fictional movie, with good and bad guys. And this sells tickets. And Americans love this! They want a big bad evil enemy, that their country can destroy. And right now, China is it! However, can you guarantee that another American, of lesser educational intelligence than yourself, can distinguish such a thing? That this is pure fiction, and not a proxy of reality. Nobody wants to be painted as the bad guy. Americans movies will certainly never paint America as the bad guy, despite the fact that millions have died at the receiving end of American weapons. In fact, I can't recall any media where America is painted as the bad guy. The Chinese people certainly don't want to see themselves as the bad guys. Especially not when it's a historical fact, that they have been severely dominated by Western nations. And hundreds of millions of their people have suffered and died. And to this day, there are certain white people, that are proud of what their race did to China in the 1800s. And if you find this shocking, please let me know. You can find this perception all over the internet, and you can poll your close friends, and ask them what they truly think. Anyways, movies are political statements. When you make it too real, then it hits too close to home. And there are certain dangers with that kind of propaganda. And it will certainly upset the people on the receiving end of it. Stick to making movies about aliens and their probing devices, zombies, and superheros in tights. Or killing the evil German Nazis. Nobody will question these kinds of movies.
  - derriz 9y ago
    I understand that no one likes being painted as the bad guy, but this is a very odd claim: "Americans movies will certainly never paint America as the bad guy, despite the fact that millions have died at the receiving end of American weapons. In fact, I can't recall any media where America is painted as the bad guy." I'm not American but this suggests you have experienced very little of the variety of American movies or general media? There are not only plenty of American movies and media critical of America and American policy but there is a long history of such. Without going back too far in history, the media presentation of the Vietnam war, for example, may be something of a cliché but it's a valid example.
    - forapurpose 9y ago
      The GP comment has the hallmarks of Chinese gov't propaganda, which reaches even here. You'll see it every time criticism of China appears: 'The U.S. does it too.' Sometimes the application of it is just laughable: > Americans movies will certainly never paint America as the bad guy Wow. > There is a lot of bad blood coming out of American media about China The paranoid, we're-picked-on perspective. Much of the comment is directly from the rhetoric of the Chinese Communist Party and government: > Anyways, movies are political statements. When you make it too real, then it hits too close to home. And there are certain dangers with that kind of propaganda. And it will certainly upset the people on the receiving end of it. Everything is political. Avoid politics that challenge the Chinese Communist Party for reasons of public order, which just upsets people - the public doesn't want to think about politics and become upset. Promoting Chinese Communist Party-approved politics is ok, because that increases public order. > Stick to making movies about aliens and their probing devices, zombies, and superheros in tights. Or killing the evil German Nazis. Nobody will question these kinds of movies. Uh, I'll try to keep that in mind. We wouldn't want to make a movie that anyone questioned!
      - blackrock 9y ago
        Everything you said, just reinforced my positions. You can't even acknowledge that my positions may have some merit. And that's the problem with trying to have a rational discussion on sensitive things like this. You get people like this guy, that only sees it from his angle. And this whole thing just becomes another echo chamber. You should consider reading this: https://arstechnica.com/science/2017/03/the-social-media-echo-chamber-is-real/ https://arstechnica.com/science/2017/03/the-social-media-ech... At this point, you can have your say. And we can agree to disagree.

There's a bunch: https://screenrant.com/movies-changed-for-china/ https://screenrant.com/movies-changed-for-china/

by sehugg 9y ago

There's a bunch: https://screenrant.com/movies-changed-for-china/ https://screenrant.com/movies-changed-for-china/

The one that really sticks out is the recent Red Dawn remake. I mean, really, North Korea is going to invade the pacific coast? It was clearly written about Communist China, that's the only way the movie could have made the slightest bit of sense, but they kowtowed and turned it into a dumpster fire, and they still didn't procure release rights there.

blackrock 9y ago
True, they requested that Red Dawn be re-edited, so that China was not the bad guy. I have not seen the movie, nor do I care to. However, let's think about this situation for a moment, as rational adults. And if you can, then try to think about this from the other side. There is a lot of bad blood coming out of American media about China. It's in the news, the movies, the TV shows, the literature, it's everywhere. Unless you are dense, then I think this can be established as a fact. China is continually being painted as the big bad scary commie, that's out to eat your children (or something like that), or at least, they're taking your iPhone assembling slavery jobs. A movie like this, would add more fuel to the fire. You, as an intelligent individual may be able to distinguish that Red Dawn is a fictional movie, with good and bad guys. And this sells tickets. And Americans love this! They want a big bad evil enemy, that their country can destroy. And right now, China is it! However, can you guarantee that another American, of lesser educational intelligence than yourself, can distinguish such a thing? That this is pure fiction, and not a proxy of reality. Nobody wants to be painted as the bad guy. Americans movies will certainly never paint America as the bad guy, despite the fact that millions have died at the receiving end of American weapons. In fact, I can't recall any media where America is painted as the bad guy. The Chinese people certainly don't want to see themselves as the bad guys. Especially not when it's a historical fact, that they have been severely dominated by Western nations. And hundreds of millions of their people have suffered and died. And to this day, there are certain white people, that are proud of what their race did to China in the 1800s. And if you find this shocking, please let me know. You can find this perception all over the internet, and you can poll your close friends, and ask them what they truly think. Anyways, movies are political statements. When you make it too real, then it hits too close to home. And there are certain dangers with that kind of propaganda. And it will certainly upset the people on the receiving end of it. Stick to making movies about aliens and their probing devices, zombies, and superheros in tights. Or killing the evil German Nazis. Nobody will question these kinds of movies.
- derriz 9y ago
  I understand that no one likes being painted as the bad guy, but this is a very odd claim: "Americans movies will certainly never paint America as the bad guy, despite the fact that millions have died at the receiving end of American weapons. In fact, I can't recall any media where America is painted as the bad guy." I'm not American but this suggests you have experienced very little of the variety of American movies or general media? There are not only plenty of American movies and media critical of America and American policy but there is a long history of such. Without going back too far in history, the media presentation of the Vietnam war, for example, may be something of a cliché but it's a valid example.
  - forapurpose 9y ago
    The GP comment has the hallmarks of Chinese gov't propaganda, which reaches even here. You'll see it every time criticism of China appears: 'The U.S. does it too.' Sometimes the application of it is just laughable: > Americans movies will certainly never paint America as the bad guy Wow. > There is a lot of bad blood coming out of American media about China The paranoid, we're-picked-on perspective. Much of the comment is directly from the rhetoric of the Chinese Communist Party and government: > Anyways, movies are political statements. When you make it too real, then it hits too close to home. And there are certain dangers with that kind of propaganda. And it will certainly upset the people on the receiving end of it. Everything is political. Avoid politics that challenge the Chinese Communist Party for reasons of public order, which just upsets people - the public doesn't want to think about politics and become upset. Promoting Chinese Communist Party-approved politics is ok, because that increases public order. > Stick to making movies about aliens and their probing devices, zombies, and superheros in tights. Or killing the evil German Nazis. Nobody will question these kinds of movies. Uh, I'll try to keep that in mind. We wouldn't want to make a movie that anyone questioned!
    - blackrock 9y ago
      Everything you said, just reinforced my positions. You can't even acknowledge that my positions may have some merit. And that's the problem with trying to have a rational discussion on sensitive things like this. You get people like this guy, that only sees it from his angle. And this whole thing just becomes another echo chamber. You should consider reading this: https://arstechnica.com/science/2017/03/the-social-media-echo-chamber-is-real/ https://arstechnica.com/science/2017/03/the-social-media-ech... At this point, you can have your say. And we can agree to disagree.