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Obvious reasons: locking young people in universities in their highest testosterone years reduces crime and drug addiction. Especially among people who don't ge

Obvious reasons: locking young people in universities in their highest testosterone years reduces crime and drug addiction. Especially among people who don't get to have much returns from that education.

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bognition 9y ago
There's actually pretty solid evidence that its over educated men without job prospects that are a major force in driving people Jihad: http://news.mit.edu/2017/why-some-muslim-clerics-become-jihadists-1109 http://news.mit.edu/2017/why-some-muslim-clerics-become-jiha...
- gowld 9y ago
  That article is strangely over-focused. Students and intellectuals have long been revolutionaries across many cultures and centuries.
have_faith 9y ago
> reduces crime and drug addiction General crime maybe...drugs not so much.
ztoben 9y ago
Universities are a hotbed for binge drinking and drug use. So I'm not sure I buy into that.
- eeZah7Ux 9y ago
  Not in every country. Please do not generalize.
- lambda_lover 9y ago
  I don't think college campuses have a reputation for violent crime, though. I think the point is that maybe the students are ruining their own lives through drug abuse, but they aren't robbing/killing/maiming others. Considering how safe I'd feel on a college campus at 2am on a Friday night compared to a rundown section of town, I'm tempted to believe that college does keep kids away from the worst of violent crime. I can't find any studies on the subject, unfortunately.
leetcrew 9y ago
> Obvious reasons: locking young people in universities in their highest testosterone years reduces crime and drug addiction this could very well be true, but it hardly seems obvious. i could readily believe that fewer serious crimes occur at universities, but it seems like the combination of a large, low-friction network and a general blunting of consequences would lead to more drug use at least, and the ability to avoid or defer direct consequences does tend to exacerbate addictions and increase their harm over time.
DanAndersen 9y ago
I wish you weren't downvoted, as there is a core insight in it. Back when universities were a thing that young aristocratic elite men attended, part of the implicit function was to get potentially troublemaking young men isolated from a lot of greater society while they worked out some of that energy and matured. But I think the modern equivalent is closer to high school, because we have a society that places inherent value on universal grade school education, and thus mandates attendance (anti-truancy, etc). One unfortunate effect is that for some, school ends up feeling like a prison or holding pen just to keep some young people off the street and out of trouble.

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bognition 9y ago

There's actually pretty solid evidence that its over educated men without job prospects that are a major force in driving people Jihad: http://news.mit.edu/2017/why-some-muslim-clerics-become-jihadists-1109 http://news.mit.edu/2017/why-some-muslim-clerics-become-jiha...

gowld 9y ago
That article is strangely over-focused. Students and intellectuals have long been revolutionaries across many cultures and centuries.

have_faith 9y ago

> reduces crime and drug addiction General crime maybe...drugs not so much.

ztoben 9y ago

Universities are a hotbed for binge drinking and drug use. So I'm not sure I buy into that.

eeZah7Ux 9y ago
Not in every country. Please do not generalize.
lambda_lover 9y ago
I don't think college campuses have a reputation for violent crime, though. I think the point is that maybe the students are ruining their own lives through drug abuse, but they aren't robbing/killing/maiming others. Considering how safe I'd feel on a college campus at 2am on a Friday night compared to a rundown section of town, I'm tempted to believe that college does keep kids away from the worst of violent crime. I can't find any studies on the subject, unfortunately.

leetcrew 9y ago

> Obvious reasons: locking young people in universities in their highest testosterone years reduces crime and drug addiction this could very well be true, but it hardly seems obvious. i could readily believe that fewer serious crimes occur at universities, but it seems like the combination of a large, low-friction network and a general blunting of consequences would lead to more drug use at least, and the ability to avoid or defer direct consequences does tend to exacerbate addictions and increase their harm over time.

DanAndersen 9y ago

I wish you weren't downvoted, as there is a core insight in it. Back when universities were a thing that young aristocratic elite men attended, part of the implicit function was to get potentially troublemaking young men isolated from a lot of greater society while they worked out some of that energy and matured. But I think the modern equivalent is closer to high school, because we have a society that places inherent value on universal grade school education, and thus mandates attendance (anti-truancy, etc). One unfortunate effect is that for some, school ends up feeling like a prison or holding pen just to keep some young people off the street and out of trouble.