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Show HN: Shiori – Simple self hosted bookmarks manager

120 points by acrophobic 9y ago

diggan 9y ago
Slightly OT, but I'm looking for a bookmark manager to actually manage my current bookmarks. I'm using Firefox and I'm currently up to about 1000 bookmarks, organized in a couple of directories. But I'd like to have UI that can tag them, automatically sort by domain and more. The Firefox Bookmark Manager is not good enough when you have a lot of bookmarks. Is there any tool out there? I don't want to export the bookmarks from Firefox but something that I can use from Firefox or import into Firefox again after organizing.
- deleted 9y ago
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- bluehatbrit 9y ago
  Full disclosure to start with, I work for the company building this. We launched the latest version of Gurn (https://gurn.io https://gurn.io) a few months back, it does bookmarks a little differently though. You assign keywords to your URLs, can collect multiple URLs under a single keyword, and sort them into lists. You can then invite others to collaborate on those lists. You can then navigate to them directly through the browser bar. We currently support chrome and firefox with IE, Edge, and Safari all being worked on at the moment. It's aimed mostly at teams but works really well individuals as well. I'm building the thing so take this with a pinch of salt, but I couldn't live without it now.
  - diggan 9y ago
    Thanks for the reply, I'll check it out. Just a FYI: your certificate for www.gurn.io does not work on gurn.io, so when you link gurn.io, I'm getting a "invalid certificate" error. Edit: just created an account and I can't find where the import for bookmarks are? I've installed the browser extension as well, but no import actions available there either.
  - notheguyouthink 9y ago
    Your https fails for me, just fyi. (error pops up saying the connection is not private)
    - bluehatbrit 9y ago
      We've fixed this now, thanks for letting us know!
      - resurge 9y ago
        https://www.gurn.io/ https://www.gurn.io/ works but https://gurn.io/ https://gurn.io/ still gives me an error. > gurn.io uses an invalid security certificate. The certificate is only valid for www.gurn.io Error code: SSL_ERROR_BAD_CERT_DOMAIN
zaarn 9y ago
>Where possible, by default shiori will download a static copy of the webpage in simple text and HTML format, which later can be used as offline archive for that page. This is the killer feature I've always been missing from so many bookmark managers. Atm I use Shaarli but I want to preserve my bookmarks as they are now for the future. I will definitely look into improving the archiving feature through pull requests. What it seems to be missing is an addon or bookmarklet to quickly bookmark pages from the active browser tab and now way to import large collections into the database. I'll test it out to see if the database can handle my bookmark collection (which should be approaching about 7000 links by now)
mariushop 9y ago
I just love the clean look of this. Looks like a labour of love for a personal tool. Nice feature, downloading the full HTML.
- acrophobic 9y ago
  Thank you very much. To clarify, it won't download the full HTML, only the content part of the webpage. It works by using go-readability[0], which strips unnecessary elements from a webpage. [0] https://github.com/RadhiFadlillah/go-readability/ https://github.com/RadhiFadlillah/go-readability/
pmullins 9y ago
Looks promising. However, I really need a way to browse my bookmarks vs. searching them. Maybe that'll be added in a later update?
- alsobrsp 9y ago
  I have used sitebar in the past, will probably start using it again. http://sitebar.org/ http://sitebar.org/
geekit 9y ago
I use Instapaper for not just "read later" feature but as bookmarking too to later refer it. It has single level folders for organizing. Searched can be done on page title or cached copy of page. As your solution is self hosted, it is good. Wish I knew Go tools to use it.
- notheguyouthink 9y ago
  > Wish I knew Go tools to use it. What do you mean?
  - geekit 9y ago
    I meant I don't have any experience with Go setup, tools and stuff since it is made with Go.
    - deleted 9y ago
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    - solarkraft 9y ago
      go get github.com/RadhiFadlillah/go-readability
    - notheguyouthink 9y ago
      Well with Go, you don't need them if all you want is to run the project. Go produces binaries, so you just download the binary from somewhere - No Go needed. In this case, iirc he was releasing binaries on the GitHub page. You only need Go if you're wanting to develop on the project, or if the developer never released binaries.
maeln 9y ago
Does someone know how it compares to Wallabag[0] ? [0] https://wallabag.org/en https://wallabag.org/en
dod9er 9y ago
Seems like a more powerful replacement for the nextcloud bookmarks app which I use. But a bookmarklet would really ease the workflow.
JepZ 9y ago
Looks very cool. Any plans for a browser integration/plugin? I save a lot of bookmarks, sometimes even multiple at once (with tree style tab).
- acrophobic 9y ago
  Yeah, I have plan to create add on for Chrome and Firefox. The rest API for saving bookmarks is already there, so I think it should be easy enough to do.
stewbrew 9y ago
It would be nice if it were able to import (or sync some bookmarks with some tag etc.) with pocket.
O_H_E 9y ago
>> Intended as a simple clone of Pocket Finally, been waiting for so long for this. You have to pay premium to search with the tags....seriously
- PurpleRamen 9y ago
  There is also https://wallabag.org https://wallabag.org which is selfhostable and somewhat popular.
roadbeats 9y ago
Hoping you don't mind a little shameless plug here, I'd like to talk about likedb: https://github.com/kozmos/likedb https://github.com/kozmos/likedb It's a bookmarking database that keeps a copy of all your bookmarks in your computer, but automatically syncs to your other devices. Similar to what Chrome and Safari do between your desktop and mobile devices. Although it's built particularly for Kozmos (getkozmos.com), you can build a service that syncs with that. P.S If you'd like to build an import manager, you can use Kozmos' parsing library; https://github.com/kozmos/bookmark-backup-parser https://github.com/kozmos/bookmark-backup-parser
- overcast 9y ago
  Is it really necessary to hijack others "Show HN"? These types of posts should be banned.
  - roadbeats 9y ago
    This is where people working on similar ideas can get together and chat, right ?
    - overcast 9y ago
      Let's cut through the nonsense here, you're advertising your product in someone else's post, and successfully became the top comment in doing so. Thus diverting any other discussion on the authors work, to only yours. I'm all for good discussions, that's why HN is my only forum I participate in, but doing this, in my opinion, sucks.
      - always_good 9y ago
        Yeah, now all the top top-level comments are plugs. This is ridiculous. Someone else's Show HN should not be an avenue for marketing your project, plain and simple. Maybe people will start organically talking/comparing to a competitor, but even that is different from the ol "hey everyone, here's my alternative!" which is just sheepish. Time to leave the theater so other people can enjoy the show.
satyanash 9y ago
Also have a look at Crestify[0]. It doesn't store local copies of the bookmarks, but instead archives them to Archive.org and Archive.today. It is open source and PRs are welcome. [0] https://github.com/crestify/crestify https://github.com/crestify/crestify
deforciant 9y ago
This looks great, building and running it seems straightforward. Helm chart or K8s deployment.yaml template would be handy too :)
joshu 9y ago
Someone should make some sort of web service for collecting and organizing links.
- davidp670 9y ago
  I have been using Bookmark OS for some time now and really like it https://bookmarkos.com https://bookmarkos.com
- tachyoff 9y ago
  I'm a big fan of Pinboard, personally. It's super cheap and the creator is committed to never selling off my data (obviously there's an element of trust there, but then again, all web services involve an element of trust). Oh, and the $25/year plan offers link archival too.
olav 9y ago
A little plug: I have integrated bookmarking with my open source personal knowledge base https://knowfox.com https://knowfox.com so I can annotate and refer to bookmarks. Bookmarked pages are run through https://mercury.postlight.com/web-parser/ https://mercury.postlight.com/web-parser/ to save the gist with the bookmark.

120 points by acrophobic 9y ago

Slightly OT, but I'm looking for a bookmark manager to actually manage my current bookmarks. I'm using Firefox and I'm currently up to about 1000 bookmarks, organized in a couple of directories. But I'd like to have UI that can tag them, automatically sort by domain and more. The Firefox Bookmark Manager is not good enough when you have a lot of bookmarks. Is there any tool out there? I don't want to export the bookmarks from Firefox but something that I can use from Firefox or import into Firefox again after organizing.

deleted 9y ago
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bluehatbrit 9y ago
Full disclosure to start with, I work for the company building this. We launched the latest version of Gurn (https://gurn.io https://gurn.io) a few months back, it does bookmarks a little differently though. You assign keywords to your URLs, can collect multiple URLs under a single keyword, and sort them into lists. You can then invite others to collaborate on those lists. You can then navigate to them directly through the browser bar. We currently support chrome and firefox with IE, Edge, and Safari all being worked on at the moment. It's aimed mostly at teams but works really well individuals as well. I'm building the thing so take this with a pinch of salt, but I couldn't live without it now.
- diggan 9y ago
  Thanks for the reply, I'll check it out. Just a FYI: your certificate for www.gurn.io does not work on gurn.io, so when you link gurn.io, I'm getting a "invalid certificate" error. Edit: just created an account and I can't find where the import for bookmarks are? I've installed the browser extension as well, but no import actions available there either.
- notheguyouthink 9y ago
  Your https fails for me, just fyi. (error pops up saying the connection is not private)
  - bluehatbrit 9y ago
    We've fixed this now, thanks for letting us know!
    - resurge 9y ago
      https://www.gurn.io/ https://www.gurn.io/ works but https://gurn.io/ https://gurn.io/ still gives me an error. > gurn.io uses an invalid security certificate. The certificate is only valid for www.gurn.io Error code: SSL_ERROR_BAD_CERT_DOMAIN

zaarn 9y ago

>Where possible, by default shiori will download a static copy of the webpage in simple text and HTML format, which later can be used as offline archive for that page. This is the killer feature I've always been missing from so many bookmark managers. Atm I use Shaarli but I want to preserve my bookmarks as they are now for the future. I will definitely look into improving the archiving feature through pull requests. What it seems to be missing is an addon or bookmarklet to quickly bookmark pages from the active browser tab and now way to import large collections into the database. I'll test it out to see if the database can handle my bookmark collection (which should be approaching about 7000 links by now)

mariushop 9y ago

I just love the clean look of this. Looks like a labour of love for a personal tool. Nice feature, downloading the full HTML.

acrophobic 9y ago
Thank you very much. To clarify, it won't download the full HTML, only the content part of the webpage. It works by using go-readability[0], which strips unnecessary elements from a webpage. [0] https://github.com/RadhiFadlillah/go-readability/ https://github.com/RadhiFadlillah/go-readability/

pmullins 9y ago

Looks promising. However, I really need a way to browse my bookmarks vs. searching them. Maybe that'll be added in a later update?

alsobrsp 9y ago
I have used sitebar in the past, will probably start using it again. http://sitebar.org/ http://sitebar.org/

geekit 9y ago

I use Instapaper for not just "read later" feature but as bookmarking too to later refer it. It has single level folders for organizing. Searched can be done on page title or cached copy of page. As your solution is self hosted, it is good. Wish I knew Go tools to use it.

notheguyouthink 9y ago
> Wish I knew Go tools to use it. What do you mean?
- geekit 9y ago
  I meant I don't have any experience with Go setup, tools and stuff since it is made with Go.
  - deleted 9y ago
    [deleted]
  - solarkraft 9y ago
    go get github.com/RadhiFadlillah/go-readability
  - notheguyouthink 9y ago
    Well with Go, you don't need them if all you want is to run the project. Go produces binaries, so you just download the binary from somewhere - No Go needed. In this case, iirc he was releasing binaries on the GitHub page. You only need Go if you're wanting to develop on the project, or if the developer never released binaries.

maeln 9y ago

Does someone know how it compares to Wallabag[0] ? [0] https://wallabag.org/en https://wallabag.org/en

dod9er 9y ago

Seems like a more powerful replacement for the nextcloud bookmarks app which I use. But a bookmarklet would really ease the workflow.

JepZ 9y ago

Looks very cool. Any plans for a browser integration/plugin? I save a lot of bookmarks, sometimes even multiple at once (with tree style tab).

acrophobic 9y ago
Yeah, I have plan to create add on for Chrome and Firefox. The rest API for saving bookmarks is already there, so I think it should be easy enough to do.

stewbrew 9y ago

It would be nice if it were able to import (or sync some bookmarks with some tag etc.) with pocket.

O_H_E 9y ago

>> Intended as a simple clone of Pocket Finally, been waiting for so long for this. You have to pay premium to search with the tags....seriously

PurpleRamen 9y ago
There is also https://wallabag.org https://wallabag.org which is selfhostable and somewhat popular.

roadbeats 9y ago

Hoping you don't mind a little shameless plug here, I'd like to talk about likedb: https://github.com/kozmos/likedb https://github.com/kozmos/likedb It's a bookmarking database that keeps a copy of all your bookmarks in your computer, but automatically syncs to your other devices. Similar to what Chrome and Safari do between your desktop and mobile devices. Although it's built particularly for Kozmos (getkozmos.com), you can build a service that syncs with that. P.S If you'd like to build an import manager, you can use Kozmos' parsing library; https://github.com/kozmos/bookmark-backup-parser https://github.com/kozmos/bookmark-backup-parser

overcast 9y ago
Is it really necessary to hijack others "Show HN"? These types of posts should be banned.
- roadbeats 9y ago
  This is where people working on similar ideas can get together and chat, right ?
  - overcast 9y ago
    Let's cut through the nonsense here, you're advertising your product in someone else's post, and successfully became the top comment in doing so. Thus diverting any other discussion on the authors work, to only yours. I'm all for good discussions, that's why HN is my only forum I participate in, but doing this, in my opinion, sucks.
    - always_good 9y ago
      Yeah, now all the top top-level comments are plugs. This is ridiculous. Someone else's Show HN should not be an avenue for marketing your project, plain and simple. Maybe people will start organically talking/comparing to a competitor, but even that is different from the ol "hey everyone, here's my alternative!" which is just sheepish. Time to leave the theater so other people can enjoy the show.

satyanash 9y ago

Also have a look at Crestify[0]. It doesn't store local copies of the bookmarks, but instead archives them to Archive.org and Archive.today. It is open source and PRs are welcome. [0] https://github.com/crestify/crestify https://github.com/crestify/crestify

deforciant 9y ago

This looks great, building and running it seems straightforward. Helm chart or K8s deployment.yaml template would be handy too :)

joshu 9y ago

Someone should make some sort of web service for collecting and organizing links.

davidp670 9y ago
I have been using Bookmark OS for some time now and really like it https://bookmarkos.com https://bookmarkos.com
tachyoff 9y ago
I'm a big fan of Pinboard, personally. It's super cheap and the creator is committed to never selling off my data (obviously there's an element of trust there, but then again, all web services involve an element of trust). Oh, and the $25/year plan offers link archival too.

olav 9y ago

A little plug: I have integrated bookmarking with my open source personal knowledge base https://knowfox.com https://knowfox.com so I can annotate and refer to bookmarks. Bookmarked pages are run through https://mercury.postlight.com/web-parser/ https://mercury.postlight.com/web-parser/ to save the gist with the bookmark.