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If a 10 year wait time for greencards and restricting the H4 spouses of those skilled visa workers to work legally is not a carrot, then yes US is doing a great

by t1o5 9y ago

If a 10 year wait time for greencards and restricting the H4 spouses of those skilled visa workers to work legally is not a carrot, then yes US is doing a great job attracting and retaining talents. I went behind the carrot for 3 years and then immigrated to Canada. My spouse has dignity now and she is a full time employee just like me earning a very good salary. In US, she lost all her confidence,dignity and was depressed because she was "not allowed" to work though she was a post graduate degree holder. Any skilled workers who care about their H4 spouses should do the same. https://travel.state.gov/content/travel/en/legal/visa-law0/visa-bulletin/2018/visa-bulletin-for-february-2018.html https://travel.state.gov/content/travel/en/legal/visa-law0/v... https://www.forbes.com/sites/stuartanderson/2017/01/28/green-card-applicants-waiting-forever-told-keep-waiting/#2cb60e411656 https://www.forbes.com/sites/stuartanderson/2017/01/28/green... http://h4-visa-a-curse.blogspot.ca/p/home.html http://h4-visa-a-curse.blogspot.ca/p/home.html https://qz.com/797831/the-h4-visa-and-the-desperation-of-indian-housewives-in-america/ https://qz.com/797831/the-h4-visa-and-the-desperation-of-ind...

adventured 9y ago
One million people get green cards each year in the US. Immigrants and their children are now 27% of the US population. Show me the numbers on China. And if you want to talk about Canada and dignity. Why is Canada only 1% hispanic? Because they restrict immigration overwhelmingly by skill. If you can't meet their skill-based requirements, you're very unlikely to get in. How's that for treating people with dignity? The US has ~46 million immigrants currently, ten million more people than the entire population of Canada.
- t1o5 9y ago
  > One million people get green cards each year in the US. Is a blanket statement. The topic is about skilled immigration. Majority of US green cards are family based. Source here: https://www.us-immigration.com/how-many-immigration-applications-filed-each-year/ https://www.us-immigration.com/how-many-immigration-applicat... > Immigrants and their children are now 27% of the US population. Immigrants from 1800s maybe ? > Show me the numbers on China. China has just started. I dont think there is any data yet. Even if there is, wont be easy to find. > Why is Canada only 1% hispanic? Because they restrict immigration overwhelmingly by skill. No they don't. They encourage both. Express Entry is for the skilled ones, family based quotas parents and siblings in addition to asylum and refugees. Isn't that how immigration is supposed to work ? > How's that for treating people with dignity? Canada have temporary worker visas similar to H1B. They issue the spouses of those temporary skilled workers with open work permit. Dignity & freedom from the day one they land in Canada. There are no carrots in Canada for temporary skilled workers. If you satisfy Express Entry points which you almost will, you can apply for permanent residence. Your permanent residence is not under the control of your employer master. Canadian employers cant threaten your Express Entry application. You wont have to wait 10 years or get kicked out of the queue if you change jobs or gets fired while being on H1B. Those who come to Canada as students get a post graduate work permit. No lotteries, no quotas and can apply to express entry and become residents unlike those unfortunate master degree holders who are at the mercy of their employer masters and waiting 10 years for their GreenCards. The fact that open work permits are issued for spouses of temporary skilled workers in Canada proves that temporary workers are treated with dignity in Canada than H1B workers in the US. Are the points above dignifying enough ?

by t1o5 9y ago

adventured 9y ago

One million people get green cards each year in the US. Immigrants and their children are now 27% of the US population. Show me the numbers on China. And if you want to talk about Canada and dignity. Why is Canada only 1% hispanic? Because they restrict immigration overwhelmingly by skill. If you can't meet their skill-based requirements, you're very unlikely to get in. How's that for treating people with dignity? The US has ~46 million immigrants currently, ten million more people than the entire population of Canada.

t1o5 9y ago
> One million people get green cards each year in the US. Is a blanket statement. The topic is about skilled immigration. Majority of US green cards are family based. Source here: https://www.us-immigration.com/how-many-immigration-applications-filed-each-year/ https://www.us-immigration.com/how-many-immigration-applicat... > Immigrants and their children are now 27% of the US population. Immigrants from 1800s maybe ? > Show me the numbers on China. China has just started. I dont think there is any data yet. Even if there is, wont be easy to find. > Why is Canada only 1% hispanic? Because they restrict immigration overwhelmingly by skill. No they don't. They encourage both. Express Entry is for the skilled ones, family based quotas parents and siblings in addition to asylum and refugees. Isn't that how immigration is supposed to work ? > How's that for treating people with dignity? Canada have temporary worker visas similar to H1B. They issue the spouses of those temporary skilled workers with open work permit. Dignity & freedom from the day one they land in Canada. There are no carrots in Canada for temporary skilled workers. If you satisfy Express Entry points which you almost will, you can apply for permanent residence. Your permanent residence is not under the control of your employer master. Canadian employers cant threaten your Express Entry application. You wont have to wait 10 years or get kicked out of the queue if you change jobs or gets fired while being on H1B. Those who come to Canada as students get a post graduate work permit. No lotteries, no quotas and can apply to express entry and become residents unlike those unfortunate master degree holders who are at the mercy of their employer masters and waiting 10 years for their GreenCards. The fact that open work permits are issued for spouses of temporary skilled workers in Canada proves that temporary workers are treated with dignity in Canada than H1B workers in the US. Are the points above dignifying enough ?