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Send us your best ? What for ? The best and brightest of India are nowadays working at startups in India itself. They are smart enough to realize the greediness

by t1o5 9y ago

Send us your best ? What for ? The best and brightest of India are nowadays working at startups in India itself. They are smart enough to realize the greediness and exploitation of US corporations who wants cheap H1B labor to look good on their Q4s. Tatas and Infosys scratch that itch of greedy corporations thats all. H1B is not a skilled visa if anyone thinks otherwise. There is no merit system in H1B. An example for merit based skilled visa is Canadian Express Entry system.

tonylinn80 9y ago
Exactly, top Chinese engineers are also much more likely to choose to work in China now. The local IT industry is booming
- adventured 9y ago
  That says a lot more about China than it does the US. In the last 15 years, China's economy has gone from extraordinarily backwards and impoverished, to massive, increasing in size by eight fold. What that means is, there is a lot more money to pay the best Chinese engineers to keep them in China. There is a lot more capital to fund local businesses.
JumpCrisscross 9y ago
> The best and brightest of India are nowadays working at startups in India itself This is difficult to prove without more data. Anecdotally, my Indian friends who moved outperform those who don’t. The red tape in India is formidable.
- wheretolive 9y ago
  When did your friends move to US. Recently or before 2012. Since 2010, the decline started and since 2012 very few highly qualifies Indians are moving to US. It has been a mix of growth in local startup ecosystem and know how much the immigration situation for Indians sucks in US!
  - t1o5 9y ago
    I can very well attest to the fact that the chaff gets H1Bed to the US thru mega body shops and the cream stays in India.
  - JumpCrisscross 9y ago
    > very few highly qualifies Indians are moving I am not commenting on the quality of the input; I don’t know, in that respect. Just outputs. Those who moved earned more, raised (or failed) faster, exited earlier, et cetera. Granted, very few were H1-Bs.
walshemj 9y ago
You haven't seen or don't know about some of the horrific practices that employers use on employees in India. Check out the workplace stack overflow. I am not surprised that engineers want to leave India

by t1o5 9y ago

tonylinn80 9y ago

Exactly, top Chinese engineers are also much more likely to choose to work in China now. The local IT industry is booming

adventured 9y ago
That says a lot more about China than it does the US. In the last 15 years, China's economy has gone from extraordinarily backwards and impoverished, to massive, increasing in size by eight fold. What that means is, there is a lot more money to pay the best Chinese engineers to keep them in China. There is a lot more capital to fund local businesses.

JumpCrisscross 9y ago

> The best and brightest of India are nowadays working at startups in India itself This is difficult to prove without more data. Anecdotally, my Indian friends who moved outperform those who don’t. The red tape in India is formidable.

wheretolive 9y ago
When did your friends move to US. Recently or before 2012. Since 2010, the decline started and since 2012 very few highly qualifies Indians are moving to US. It has been a mix of growth in local startup ecosystem and know how much the immigration situation for Indians sucks in US!
- t1o5 9y ago
  I can very well attest to the fact that the chaff gets H1Bed to the US thru mega body shops and the cream stays in India.
- JumpCrisscross 9y ago
  > very few highly qualifies Indians are moving I am not commenting on the quality of the input; I don’t know, in that respect. Just outputs. Those who moved earned more, raised (or failed) faster, exited earlier, et cetera. Granted, very few were H1-Bs.

walshemj 9y ago

You haven't seen or don't know about some of the horrific practices that employers use on employees in India. Check out the workplace stack overflow. I am not surprised that engineers want to leave India