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I once said something slightly political and my comment was downvoted into oblivion. So that helps.

by mygo 9y ago

dsr_ 9y ago
I say fairly political things all the time -- roughly 10% of my comments, I think -- and they generally stay positive. Politics and economics and ethics are inextricably intertwined with technology these days, so it's usually on topic to comment about the political aspects of a situation.
c3534l 9y ago
My political comments are some of my most popular ones I've made. I think it's more about saying something that's actually constructive or different. I think also the fact that hackernews is not ideologically segmented has to do with it, too. We're here for programming and decent, thought-provoking reading, not having people tell us we're right. You can get away with being political if you're genuinely trying to contribute to the conversation.
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- chii 9y ago
  > actually constructive or different. > not ideologically segmented i dont think that's really the case. HN is full of middle/upper middle class programmers who works in well-developed countries. This is definitely a segment on the political spectrum. This is why you don't see many trump voters here, or bigots or the very conservative. Anyone who attempts to bring discourse with such an undertone will get downvoted. I'd say HN has more groupthink than the people here would care to admit.
  - spacehome 9y ago
    I don't think career correlates quite so closely to the liberal-conservative spectrum as you may think. Yes, there are a lot of liberals, but I get the impression that libertarians are over-represented as well. And there may not be as few Trump voters as you think ;)
  - dragonwriter 9y ago
    > HN is full of middle/upper middle class programmers who works in well-developed countries. This is definitely a segment on the political spectrum. No, it's not. While class and profession have some loose correlation to ideology, the class/profession combination you describe includes people from all over the political spectrum, including all of the ones you say are excluded from HN for this reason (whuch, contrary to your description, seem to be well represented; well, not overt bigots but HN moderation is aimed pretty directly against that, and perhaps merely Trump apologists, who may or may not be Trump voters.)
    - bayonetz 9y ago
      Sounds like an empirical question to me. I'd ante a moderate sum though that @chil's assessment is closer to the truth in terms of homogeneity of political leanings on HN and, if you could somehow measure it, that there is "...more groupthink than the people here would care to admit" on HN.
- mygo 9y ago
  Well it seems you and I have had different experiences. I’ve whitnessed threads where users were basically going “no politics pls.” Maybe the threads that I end up clicking on attract certain kinds and the threads that you’re on attract other kinds.
culot 9y ago
I didn't know you could downvote on here. I only see up arrows.
- grzm 9y ago
  Once you attain 501 karma, you're allowed to downvote.
dredmorbius 9y ago
I'm fairly contrarian and don't shy from political and economic commentary. Responses vary, though I'd argue it's generally net positive. Not getting too heavily invested in any one comment helps, as does addressing any responses strongest rather than weakest points. I'll call out (and occaisionally report) comments thaat eem unjustly downvoted. Sometimes (frequently) the mods agree, occasionally they don't. There are also numerous shadowbanned accounts. It is possible to vouch their positive contribuions. HN isn't perfect, but it's better than a tremendous amount of the Web, for discussion.

I once said something slightly political and my comment was downvoted into oblivion. So that helps.

by mygo 9y ago

I once said something slightly political and my comment was downvoted into oblivion. So that helps.

dsr_ 9y ago

I say fairly political things all the time -- roughly 10% of my comments, I think -- and they generally stay positive. Politics and economics and ethics are inextricably intertwined with technology these days, so it's usually on topic to comment about the political aspects of a situation.

c3534l 9y ago

My political comments are some of my most popular ones I've made. I think it's more about saying something that's actually constructive or different. I think also the fact that hackernews is not ideologically segmented has to do with it, too. We're here for programming and decent, thought-provoking reading, not having people tell us we're right. You can get away with being political if you're genuinely trying to contribute to the conversation.

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chii 9y ago
> actually constructive or different. > not ideologically segmented i dont think that's really the case. HN is full of middle/upper middle class programmers who works in well-developed countries. This is definitely a segment on the political spectrum. This is why you don't see many trump voters here, or bigots or the very conservative. Anyone who attempts to bring discourse with such an undertone will get downvoted. I'd say HN has more groupthink than the people here would care to admit.
- spacehome 9y ago
  I don't think career correlates quite so closely to the liberal-conservative spectrum as you may think. Yes, there are a lot of liberals, but I get the impression that libertarians are over-represented as well. And there may not be as few Trump voters as you think ;)
- dragonwriter 9y ago
  > HN is full of middle/upper middle class programmers who works in well-developed countries. This is definitely a segment on the political spectrum. No, it's not. While class and profession have some loose correlation to ideology, the class/profession combination you describe includes people from all over the political spectrum, including all of the ones you say are excluded from HN for this reason (whuch, contrary to your description, seem to be well represented; well, not overt bigots but HN moderation is aimed pretty directly against that, and perhaps merely Trump apologists, who may or may not be Trump voters.)
  - bayonetz 9y ago
    Sounds like an empirical question to me. I'd ante a moderate sum though that @chil's assessment is closer to the truth in terms of homogeneity of political leanings on HN and, if you could somehow measure it, that there is "...more groupthink than the people here would care to admit" on HN.
mygo 9y ago
Well it seems you and I have had different experiences. I’ve whitnessed threads where users were basically going “no politics pls.” Maybe the threads that I end up clicking on attract certain kinds and the threads that you’re on attract other kinds.

culot 9y ago

I didn't know you could downvote on here. I only see up arrows.

grzm 9y ago
Once you attain 501 karma, you're allowed to downvote.

dredmorbius 9y ago

I'm fairly contrarian and don't shy from political and economic commentary. Responses vary, though I'd argue it's generally net positive. Not getting too heavily invested in any one comment helps, as does addressing any responses strongest rather than weakest points. I'll call out (and occaisionally report) comments thaat eem unjustly downvoted. Sometimes (frequently) the mods agree, occasionally they don't. There are also numerous shadowbanned accounts. It is possible to vouch their positive contribuions. HN isn't perfect, but it's better than a tremendous amount of the Web, for discussion.